nigelmercier
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Unless it gets mentioned on a sailing forum ...
A Brand New Bavaria 33 Yacht for Under £1,000?
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Norman_E
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Which makes me think this thread was started to advertise it, and should be pulled.
JumbleDuck
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I think you're right. Has anyone dared to sign up (false identity and email address would seem sensible precautions) to find out how much a paid bid costs?
nickd
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Signed up (not my normal email)
Bid price is £10.30 per bid so a max potential return to the organisers of £963,050 = 10 x potential cost or more because they also have a cop out that says if there is no unique bid then the person that lead the leader board the most times is the winner
Only one person has put a paid for bid in
This bid is between 934.50 and 935.00
And strangely the little ticking clock which infers that the there was only 20 minutes of biddding left has now disapperared!
I would guess this "auction" will go on for some time
Cheers
Nick
Bid price is £10.30 per bid so a max potential return to the organisers of £963,050 = 10 x potential cost or more because they also have a cop out that says if there is no unique bid then the person that lead the leader board the most times is the winner
Only one person has put a paid for bid in
This bid is between 934.50 and 935.00
And strangely the little ticking clock which infers that the there was only 20 minutes of biddding left has now disapperared!
I would guess this "auction" will go on for some time
Cheers
Nick
Norman_E
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Actually the potential return figure of £963,050 quoted above appears to be nothing more than the combined cost of all the different bids that could be made, but a bidder would not know that his bid matched one already made until he placed it, so any number of people could bid the same amount, meaning that the potential take from this form of gambling is unlimited, given that we are not told when the bidding will end. For all we know that will only be when there is a single price between a penny and the maximum that has not had two or more bids.
chewi
Active member
There is nothing to prevent the organisers knowing the state of bids, thus nothing to stop one of them (or their associates) making the "right" bid at the right time, so the innocent (gullible?) punter has no prospect of "winning", unless the organisers are infeasibly honest.
He is almost guaranteed to lose the cost of his paid bids at £10.30 each. I doubt he will have any rights under sale of Goods or any other acts. Thius will have been carefully constructed to fall in the gap between auction sales and gambling.
He is almost guaranteed to lose the cost of his paid bids at £10.30 each. I doubt he will have any rights under sale of Goods or any other acts. Thius will have been carefully constructed to fall in the gap between auction sales and gambling.
JumbleDuck
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Agreed. I think it has been designed to be a "game of skill" although with such complicated rules that winning seems nearly impossible.
Wandering Star
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Would it work if I offered a Hallberg Rassy or Oyster as the prize?
Steve Clayton
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+1. Look at the thread tags below added by (presumably) the OP and he has posted the same on other saily forums
OP's name is Julian Chappell
edit: and a bit more: https://plus.google.com/107044305337078184606/posts
now if I were a Mod.............
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JumbleDuck
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+1. Look at the thread tags below added by (presumably) the OP and he has posted the same on other saily forums
now if I were a Mod.............
... I would leave it here as a warning to anyone tempted by this remarkable opportunity.
Steve Clayton
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I'd go with that suggestion cos I can show he has lied in open forum. He says "I saw this 'new craze' on the TV News and wondered if anyone had tried it yet. It seems to be some new kind of auction where you can't bid any more than £1,000 for a new Bavaria 33 Yacht. It's obviously a genuine offer as it was on the News as the latest buying craze, but it still seems too good to be true. I'm thinking of having a go, but wondered if any other member has first"
and elsewhere he says "Julian Chappell - Get all the latest must have items at silly prices! - Great Britain - I have just launched this great web site with auctions for must have items..."
and on the forum here Julian also says "Thanks for the comments. All very negative I see. No mention of how great it would be to make over £90,000.00, which is what attracted me!
So Hi Julian - you've been rumbled as a fraud pretending to show genuine interest but you are the site owner just trying to promote yourself. Best you move along somewhere else.
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longjohnsilver
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Swanrad2
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It is usually a fixed fee for each bid, so say £1 for a 1p bid, so £1,000 actually = 100 £1,000; that's quite an expensive Bavaria.