50ft HT Sports Cruisers

Mick just for pure divelment have a look at the Broom 530. It's a halfway house between a large sports cruiser and FB, but 40% more internal living space then P54 or F50. Show Mrs SV2 the master cabin - her reaction will be very interesting. The outdoor cockpit area is amazing for socialising, yet sheltered from wind and doesn't roll like an FB. An under rated machine that seems to slip under the F,P, and S radar /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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PS: Boards from stern or side due to low free board.
 
Wood floor is great in the deck saloon, with carpets down below. Uber cool :-)

Thought I'd try new avatar for a while so you can play spot-the-difference with alistairr's :-)
 
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Eg an interior style wooden floor with no black sikaflex caulking - which afaik is what Magnum has ordered. Just imho

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The deck saloon flooring in the Pred72 is plain teak boarding, wide planks, finely sanded, without sikaflex as you say. Problem is the teak shows up every little water stain and isn't very warm under foot. The only option for cleaning, according to Sunseeker, is the usual 2-part teak cleaner which I don't fancy sloshing around the cabinetry. So we're having a very short light fawn wool cord-type carpet which combined with American walnut looks very cool indeed /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
The carpet Sunseeker use is one of my favourites..comfy under foot and easy to clean. I'd be interested to know if you're going for the triple helm seat arrangement (as on Enigma) or the single helm seat and bench style sofa (as on Splash)?.
 
The carpet isn't standard Sunseeker - we sourced it ourselves.

Yep, going for the 3 individual helm seats although only one will have a full pedestal mount. The other two will sit on top of cabinetry. Splash had the cabinetry removed and 3 full pedestals.
 
Wow..it looks a close match to the carpet sunseeker did use ( i'm sure it's wool based, and looks similar). Maybe they don't use it anymore, i saw it on Shiver (Pred108) about 2 years ago.

I'd imagine at 40+ knots the 3 individual helm seats would be more comfortable!.

Looking forward to a race next summer.. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Good luck with her
 
Hi Noel,

Sorry for the delay but I wanted to have a look at you suggestion which at first can seem off base but I agree that it shows a fair degree of lateral thinking.

Some here will think I'm mad but the 530 seems to have some very good ideas.

Looking at the website, I get the idea that she is 50ft with a bigger bathing platform grafted on ? That platform is very big indeed and perfect for a large tender & crane.

The walk around decks are also a very good idea as are the "gates" in the handrail. I can see this arrangement working well when shorthanded as it would afford easy communication between MrsSV and myself when docking.

Master suite looks big as does the saloon.

The downsides are imo...

The saloon forward & dinette just don't look right with the split level - I guess it would have to be seen in the flesh.

The stern ports for the mastersuite are blocked by the tender?

It seems pricey ? - of course if it gives 40% more living space, foot for foot, then the price is relative. I suppose it can be argued that if you only want 50ft HT SC space then the Broom 450 will do the job?

I'm not sure about it rolling less than a 50ft fly - just can't see how that can be ?

I'm not sure that I agree about the cockpit being sheltered in the wind - do you have to erect the canopies ?

On the otherhand, getting back to the GT SC's...

The bathing platforms are hydraulic - just drive the tender on.

Access is also good due to everything being on the one level.

Prices are competative v same size Fly.

I still have concerns about the view out from the "only" helm. I know that the Predator rides bow high - I suppose that can be trimmed down but at what cost in fuel / spray etc?

This is a very important consideration for us as our home cruising area is peppered with lobster pots and we sometime get caught out and return to base in the dark.

Both SS & Absolute are confident that the advantages of the HT SC's will win me over /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Thank's anyway Noel - good effort /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
I'm sure its not enough to sway your decision, but just out of interest, the Broom 530 does either come with, or is available with, a hi-lo bathing platform. The boat at SIBS a couple of years back had one.
 
I'm with Ocean Froggie on this and I think his suggestion of a B530 or B450 has a lot of merit. Firstly, the helm station is higher up than a HT cruiser and therefore will give you a better view of what's ahead especially when there's spray flying about. Broom fit all their boats with an excellent canvas top closing mechanism which makes opening and closing the top much easier than a normal canvas top. Also they have supplied hardtops for a few boats in the past although I don't think it's a standard option. The cockpit seating area can be completely enclosed but you may find the seating area smaller than some of the other boats you're looking at. You won't find another boat with as much accomodation as a Broom length for length and the aft cabins of the bigger boats are really palatial although, as you say, a big tender will impede the view from the aft cabin hatches
Having owned a Broom myself and as I think OceanFroggie would testify, the seakeeping of modern Brooms is excellent. Also because they carry relatively little windage and have a small keel, they're easy to manouvre in tight spaces and getting about them is really easy because the side decks are wide and all on one level
On the downside, the interior and exterior styling is very sensible shoes and not at all glitzy like the other boats you're looking at and whilst most new Brooms will crack 30knots with the right engines, realistically they're 22-25knot cruisers and the handling will be steady rather than dynamic. They're boats for going places rather than blinging it in a marina
 
Hi Nick.

A Hi - Low bathing platform would not be very high on my priority list but I must admit if I had one on SV2 then I'd have a decent tender.
 
One thing I have noticed is that Broom seem to have a loyal following.

I had them categorised as an inland boat until I saw Ocean Froggies report on his 50% circumnavigation of Ireland and then back again. He met some serious seas especially near Carnsore Point (if memory serves).

I saw a UK flagged 450 in Malahide during the year and I was impressed with the helmans view over the stern when he was backing in.

OK, they are not glitzy but that's not important. A bit of performance is something which I must decide upon especially with the impending fuel price increase on the horizon.

I can see it now, following on from seatrials on 2 Sports Cruisers he buys a Broom /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

To be honest if the HT SC's don't work for us we will probably stay with SV2.
 
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Hi Nick.

A Hi - Low bathing platform would not be very high on my priority list but I must admit if I had one on SV2 then I'd have a decent tender.

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There's another huge benefit to a hi-lo bathing platform. Lower it to just under water level at anchor and it minimises roll by acting as a giant stabiliser.
 
Yup, Brooms have a loyal following. If I was still doing my boating around the UK, I would still have one. They're practical, well built and they keep their value. FWIW, I think the 50/530 does'nt offer much more than the 450 and yet costs quite a bit more
 
Some nics pics of the Absolute 52 on Nauticals post from Boot Dusseldorf Boatshow hereabouts.

This is a med spec boat. We are looking at a revised spec for the UK which looks good in the drawings.

Feel free to comment.
 
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[/ QUOTE ]Hi Mike that's a very Succinct way of putting it /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I dare Mick to show Mrs SVII around the master cabin of either a 450 or 530 in person /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Ted, ted, that money that was just resting in your account - it's all gone - Has Fr Jack spent it all on drink, or did Mrs SVII by a new Broom for Mrs Doyle
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They do seem to suit our climate (ie lots of leaves need to be swept up in the autumn)

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PS: Tender doesn't block the view out of the fantastic low level aft cabin window hatches. After Mrs OF saw the inside our destiny was cast in stone. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

PS: As per Deleted User I too prefer the 450. You'll rattle around inside compared to a 50 FB. The helm is one of the best things about these boats, vis is good at just the right height, having lunch laid out behind on the cockpit table, on auto pilot and enjoy lunch on the fly. When the WX is pure XhiX the dinette inside is a bonus.
 
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