3rd reef in main

[dilly]

hi i have a moody 34 was thinking of how to fit the 3rd reef .i have a kemp boom I have three reefing points. and three lines I use 2 for reefing and 3rd as a outhaul .is this the norm how would you fit a 3rd reef on this sys would you fix the outhaul to the boom somehow and use all 3 lines for reefing thanks dilly

 

[dilly]

would it be too hard to untie the second reef and make the 3rd reef at the time its req or would that be to hard to do.and my head sail is a kemp sail and that has no reefing marks on i just make the 2 sails about the same size is that about right thanks dilly

 

[alahol2]

This thread just about covers all the ins and outs of the third reef... http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?358053-Third-reef-setup
As to the headsail, it is infinitely variable so you just keep adjusting until you and the boat are happy with the balance. I find that I need to reef the genoa before the main to get a decent balance, other boats need the main reefing first. It all comes down to trial and error in the end.

 

[doug748]

hi i have a moody 34 was thinking of how to fit the 3rd reef .i have a kemp boom I have three reefing points. and three lines I use 2 for reefing and 3rd as a outhaul .is this the norm how would you fit a 3rd reef on this sys would you fix the outhaul to the boom somehow and use all 3 lines for reefing thanks dilly

I had a similar set up with a Kemp boom.

In the end I used the outhaul for the third reef and fitted a new outhaul system to the side of the boom (as you have intimated).

The new outhaul needed little more than a turning block and a jamming cleat, I positioned thngs in such a way as to be able to use an existing mast winch, if required. Works ok.

 

[BabaYaga]

But beware, that on some booms the outhaul has an internal purchase system that would have to be removed in order to use that 3d sheave for a reefing line. This goes for my Seldén boom, dating from 1980. Probably true of some Kemp booms as well...

 

[srah1953]

But beware, that on some booms the outhaul has an internal purchase system that would have to be removed in order to use that 3d sheave for a reefing line. This goes for my Seldén boom, dating from 1980. Probably true of some Kemp booms as well...

I don't understand this. Presumably instead of attaching it to the outhaul, you would attach it to the 3rd reef cringle. why would it impact upon any mechanism inside the boom?

 

[dunedin]

I don't understand this. Presumably instead of attaching it to the outhaul, you would attach it to the 3rd reef cringle. why would it impact upon any mechanism inside the boom?

The outhaul generally only needs to move 6 inches or less - so may have a multi-part tackle in the boom and then often a wire connecting to the clew.
Third reef has to pull a huge amount of rope through each time the sail is reeled - so would need to remove the tackle and check the end pulley is sized for rope not wire.

But if it can be adapted I would definitely use the pulley for he third reef and re-rig the outhaul. perhaps even just tie this off as the least useful sail control IMHO (and I am very much into fast sail shape)

 

[PabloPicasso]

For those. That have three reefing crinkles and three reefing lines, do you, can you, leave them set up with no reefs in?

 

[DaveS]

hi i have a moody 34 was thinking of how to fit the 3rd reef .i have a kemp boom I have three reefing points. and three lines I use 2 for reefing and 3rd as a outhaul .is this the norm how would you fit a 3rd reef on this sys would you fix the outhaul to the boom somehow and use all 3 lines for reefing thanks dilly

My boom is similar, and I attached an additional block to each side of the boom end - just lashed on. These take the lines for the third reef and the flattening reef (leech Cunningham) respectively. With the latter available I leave the outhaul fixed in "light wind" position and held by the boom clutch. Everything else comes back to the cockpit including the four luff reefing lines (inc. Cunningham). It works well, but does involve quite a lot of clutches!

Just to add: my sail has an eyelet an inch above the boom directly below each reefing cringle, so the reefing lines are passed round the boom and tied back on themselves with no need for boom fixings: I use a clove hitch which, tied to the standing part in this way is, I believe, called a midshipman's hitch.

 

[doug748]

For those. That have three reefing crinkles and three reefing lines, do you, can you, leave them set up with no reefs in?

Yes, I leave them in there.

I am a wimp. Sorting lines in poor weather is not my idea of a good day out.