34 Foot boat with twin wheels?

[maby]

I think Tranona's days of dark and stormy nights offshore are long gone, and why not?

People mock 4x4s that never see more than the schoolrun and the Waitrose car-park, yet somehow buying anything less than a dedicated deep-sea voyager to make day cruises between South Coast marinas is seen as foolish, irresponsible, and being a big wuss?

Pete

 

[bitbaltic]

I think Tranona's days of dark and stormy nights offshore are long gone, and why not?

People mock 4x4s that never see more than the schoolrun and the Waitrose car-park, yet somehow buying anything less than a dedicated deep-sea voyager to make day cruises between South Coast marinas is seen as foolish, irresponsible, and being a big wuss?

Pete

that pic makes it look like a death trap down below if you are offshore with it on a dark and stormy night.....

My 'you' was a generalisation, as in (... if one is offshore with it...) not (... if Tranona is offshore with it).

Bavaria, I assume, have customers other than Tranona alone. Doubtless it therefore says something rather along your lines above in the brochure

I really am not criticising Tranona's choices, nor even the use of 'things less than dedicated deep sea cruisers' for coastal pottering. I was just looking at the boat in the light of my own experience of the odd bumpy night offshore, which is where I might take a Bavaria should I become one of their happy customers. :encouragement:

 

[bitbaltic]

But the point is that we don't go out on stormy nights - or days for that matter. I can't speak for others, but I have no problem admitting that our AWB is a "caravan with a mast sticking out" - that is what it was bought for and how it is used... It is our floating cottage by the sea that can weigh anchor and move if we get fed up with the neighbours or bored with the view...

We have no handholds to speak of, but we have a lounge large enough to host a decent dinner party!

Don't worry, my comments were at least partly tongue in cheek. I knew perfectly well that they would elicit some south coast cottage stuff. As I said to Pete, I am not criticising how you or Tranona use your boats, merely ruminating on how I would like to use a boat. Each absolutely to their own.

It's still a death trap offsh... I'll get me coat

 

[pvb]

I really am not criticising Tranona's choices, nor even the use of 'things less than dedicated deep sea cruisers' for coastal pottering. I was just looking at the boat in the light of my own experience of the odd bumpy night offshore, which is where I might take a Bavaria should I become one of their happy customers. :encouragement:

I'd have thought the handholds in Tranona's Cruiser 33 are about as good as the handholds in your Hanse 301.

 

[bitbaltic]

I'd have thought the handholds in Tranona's Cruiser 33 are about as good as the handholds in your Hanse 301.

Not from the pic he's supplied, no. But I haven't been onboard the boat to compare fairly. For lots of reasons I would not take the Hanse far offshore on stormy nights any more than Tranona would his boat, but the 33 is RCD A isn't it? Some buyers might want to do that. I suppose I ought to add that it would in any case be a fallacy to judge an observation about one boat by criticism of some other.

It's not at all a big point for me. As I say I am agnostic about Bavarias- my heart would not buy one but my head definitely would. I just noticed something which, for me, would be a point of consideration and, apart from negative support (Tranona doesn't take his boat offshore so presumably he can have a bed of nails in there if he wants to; Maby doesn't take his boat offshore so can do just the same; how are the handholds in fifteen year old boats by other manufacturers by the way) the only positive raised on the point has been that there's a good strong table to hang on to. Jolly good, honestly, I've no problem with that.

 

[wully1]

Now I am completely agnostic about bavarias, but I can't see any handholds in that pic, and are the edges of that compression post actually square?

It's a good thing it doesn't heel much because that pic makes it look like a death trap down below if you are offshore with it on a dark and stormy night.....

Have a look at Guidos Sailing Channel on YouTube. He singlehanded a Bav 33 ( ish) from Germany to the West Indies and had some rough stuff on the way.
It would be close to the bottom of my boat choice list for many reasons but he made it OK and it didn't sink or break much. Mind you, his boat only had one wheel....

I think he did get hurt being thrown around but that might have been in the cockpit, can't remember now.

 

[Birdseye]

Seriously, why?

I confess I think twin wheels are an affectation to distract for the awful looking cockpit designs on new boats but would it not be better, cheaper to fit a nice carbon fibre tiller?

As for only having engine controls on one side.....

Its not a dinghy - carbon fibre large diameter wheel is whats needed.