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Can anybody help me with estimation of costs? I hope to find a mooring and will be laying up over winter with painting and varnishing every year. An old yanmar engine and wooden spars. I'm just after a rough guestimate of annual costs. I have absolutely no idea and would appreciate estimates from people who have been there and done it/are doing it.

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G'day Machone and welcome to the YBW forums,

If you include the location and mooring type you require you will get a better answer.

Also a good idea to fill in your bio so we know some details of boat type and general location.

I'm sure someone be along shortly to give some idea, no good me posting unless you plan on sailing to Australia.

Avagoodweekend......
 
I ran a 30' steel sailing boat with a yanmar for a couple of seasons.... but there are so many variables it's difficult to give a definative budget.

Unless you have a private swinging mooring at a "peanuts" rent, your main cost will be the mooring fees, winter storage fees, insurance and cranage.

Will you be laying-up ashore or in a mud-berth (do they still exist?). Will you need to hire a cradle?

Here on the East Coast, I reckon on an annual budget of £3000 for my 30-footer. Thats roughly 1900 for the mooring, 300 for the winter cranage, 250 for insurance, 100 for antifoul, sealants etc, then another few hundred for goodies, engine consumables and "improvements". Of course, thats before you start to put any fuel or food in her or anything breaks.

I'm sure some of our south coast friends will be paying more than that for the moorings alone... but then again they do have more water to play with /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

In theory you should also take into account the wear on the sails, lines and engine. These will need replacing eventually so their cost should be amortised across, say, 10 seasons.
 
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Usually reckon about 10% the value of the boat per year in costs.

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I don't think that's an adequate formula. A 26' 30 year old boat worth say 10k will cost a similar amount to berth, insure and maintain as a newer, slightly larger boat 'worth' 3 or 4 times as much. Like the poster above I reckon around £3k a year and mine's a 60 year old wooden boat that cost not a great deal so my annual costs are nearer 50% of 'value' whatever that is.
 
Agree, we pay around AU$12,000.00 a year for our marina pen, diesel fuel is 5 to 8 cents per litre more than the local BP or Shell outlet.

Annual lift out around AU$400.00, Planning to repair the skegs this year, about AU$200.00 a side and the list just keeps growing.

Will I give up sailing?

N E V E R.

Avagoodweekend......
 
all depends where you keep her your moorings will be between £30 - £3000 per year i pay £250 for a creak in the wash. paint varnish etc say £200 a year its difficult to put a price on the up keep just depends what needs doing. prob looking at £40-50 for engine service. i good tip is to try to by industrial equivalents when it comes to paint don't by it from chandlers that's for sure. buy all stainless fixings eg screws and bolts etc from screw fix or a local nut and bolt firm they even do different grades suitable for under the water line A4 i think?
 
Thanks.

I will be lifting her out every year and in Ireland initially but was then thinking about Holland or Germany. She is in a bit of a state and will probably/definately be expensive to start with. I have quotes of 2500 - 3000GBP for shot blasting and primer coat. Is this about right? Also, is it possible to weld stainless to non stainless steel? The gunnals and stantions need replacement and I think stainless would be better.

Are there any 'magic' paints available now to go on Steel/post blast primer that will stop rust?

Machone
 
Hi, and welcome.
Not a steel boat expert but, epoxy primers are the standard, applied directly after sand blasting.Blakes used to be(are)suppliers of such paints. I have seen plenty of boats with S.S. welded to mild plate. I expect someone will come and expain why you should not, but it seems to work.
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