220v electric question

[Bouba]

Based upon your level of technical knowledge demonstrated (ie extremely low) I would suggest you should get a professional do do any wiring changes

I can wire a plug or socket…what I don’t know is what is permissible…hence the question

 

[PaulRainbow]

Looking at that @Bouba needs to extend either from either socket 16 or 22. He would possibly get away with 1.5mm cable if the run is short.

It also shows 6mm cable coming in possibly indicating a 32 amp supply.

It's a radial circuit, he can add a socket anywhere he wants. although 16, 22 and 24 would be easier as they only have one cable going to them. If he had to use one of the others he'd likely have to fit a junction box, getting 3 cables in that stlye of socket is difficult.

 

[Bouba]

It's a radial circuit, he can add a socket anywhere he wants.

Is that true ? and do I take it from the existing socket ?

 

[PaulRainbow]

Is that true ? and do I take it from the existing socket ?

No, i made it up.

 

[Lightwave395]

Is that true ? and do I take it from the existing socket ?

Always listen to Paul R, if only for your safety, I'm sure he'd be happy to spend a couple of days in the SOF if you wanted him to do it...

In my home marina (Port Haliguen) there aren't many 32A plug shore power points, just a couple at the end of each hammerhead

 

[Bouba]

Always listen to Paul R, if only for your safety, I'm sure he'd be happy to spend a couple of days in the SOF if you wanted him to do it...

In my home marina (Port Haliguen) there aren't many 32A plug shore power points, just a couple at the end of each hammerhead

I don’t have enough electrical work to justify his board....however if he can clean and engine service....he will be entitled to two weeks free board with a guaranteed one night off a week

 

[Bouba]

Ok…I’m on the boat and at the back of the socket I want to siphon off….the socket doesn’t appear to go to another outlet…but I will check with the wiring diagram soon.

 

[Bouba]

It is supplied by a connection that appears to be a double connection with only one used. Could I take my new socket from the empty slot on this connector ?

 

[Bouba]

Ok…according to the wiring diagram there is already a spur coming off my socket
A17 is my socket and A16 is the spur

 

[Bouba]

The connector I wanted to use is probably the one that goes to the next socket

 

[Bouba]

Without doing a diagram…the wire closest is going to socket A17 and the wire next to it is probably going to A16

 

[Boaty_Pete]

To be fair, in real terms, you can add a spur to a radial, and you can add a spur to a ring, what you're not supposed to do is add a spur to a spur.
If your protection device is capable of protecting the circuit, all will be fine.
If it's 13 or 16 amp, I'd not worry. Whats more important is that you make a good job of the work. (Good safe connections)
If it's a 32a breaker you need to be a lot more careful. The rules are designed so that....if you do something below par, which is ok because you 'knew' and would behave accordingly, the next person may not, and that's where the issues arise.

 

[Bouba]

To be fair, in real terms, you can add a spur to a radial, and you can add a spur to a ring, what you're not supposed to do is add a spur to a spur.
If your protection device is capable of protecting the circuit, all will be fine.
If it's 13 or 16 amp, I'd not worry. Whats more important is that you make a good job of the work. (Good safe connections)
If it's a 32a breaker you need to be a lot more careful. The rules are designed so that....if you do something below par, which is ok because you 'knew' and would behave accordingly, the next person may not, and that's where the issues arise.

Thanks for that. I’m not sure if it’s a 32 amp or 16 amp....and am not sure where to look to find out

 

[PaulRainbow]

To be fair, in real terms, you can add a spur to a radial, and you can add a spur to a ring, what you're not supposed to do is add a spur to a spur.

You don't add spurs to a radial, you add branches and you can add as many as you like, provided the cable and circuit protection can support them.

 

[PaulRainbow]

Thanks for that. I’m not sure if it’s a 32 amp or 16 amp....and am not sure where to look to find out

This is very, very, very, very basic stuff, you should get someone in who knows what they are doing.

 

[Bouba]

You don't add spurs to a radial, you add branches and you can add as many as you like, provided the cable and circuit protection can support them.

What’s the difference between a spur and a branch ?

 

[PaulRainbow]

What’s the difference between a spur and a branch ?

See post 35

 

[Bouba]

This is very, very, very, very basic stuff, you should get someone in who knows what they are doing.

I thought I was talking to one

 

[Bouba]

I really am surprised with some of the answers....I want to add a socket and am merely asking where is the best place to take the supply....I am trying to add as much information that I can get with each boat visit

 

[PaulRainbow]

I thought I was talking to one

Talking to one and being able to do the job are two different things. 220VAC can and will kill you, or your wife, or one of your kids/grandkids. It isn't just about poking three wires into three terminals, it's the correct wire, in the correct terminal with correct circuit protection etc. Is the few quid you might save worth risking someone getting electrocuted ?