2 stroke outboards outlawed from Jan 2007?

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Did I read that right in Januarys MBM that apart from some of the Evinrudes hi tec engines you cant buy a new 2 stoke from Jan 2007 only 4 stokes due to emmisions?
 
I think the wording is "manufactured prior to Jan 2007", so everyone can continue selling, buying and using them as long as they're made this year or before... was hoping to pick up a bargin buying somethinig cheap in the last few days of this year but doesn't look like it'll happen /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
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This is part of the RCD so commercial users can still buy new smokey, noisy, poluting 2 strokes /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Of course it makes sense!

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Sorry, remind me again what the EU is for? I can only assume that one of the EU nations manufactures "new smokey, noisy, poluting 2 strokes". No other explanation makes sense.
 
You did read that but it is not correct. You will be able to buy both new and secondhand motors. Anyone with a bit of sense would also have bought a spare new 2 stroke engine and put it in storage. It will however become more difficult to find new 2 stroke engines for sale from normal mainstream suppliers.
 
its a bit ironic really. I actually sold my perfectly good honda 2.2HP (4 stroke) to buy a 3.3HP (2 stroke) mercury - why - cause you dont have to worry about which position you store it in !!!
 
I bought a brand new Mariner 5 hp 2st, back in September from John Bridger marine in Exeter, they told me at the time that they fully expected to be able to supply new 2 strokes for the foreseable future, at least all through 2007. I understand though that some manufacturers are viewing the new legislation, as and when it bites as a bit of a gravy train, Tohatsu being one, they have just upped the prices of all their 2 strokes by a silly amount, because they believe there will be a heavy demand for them. I hope they catch a stinking cold! /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
 
i bought 2 2.5hp mariners and a 3.5hp a few weeks ago from my local dealer and got a really good price. ive already sold a 2.5 for 30 more than i paid. i'll keep the others for a back up to my little 16ft fishing boat for the summer
 
For those that are interested??

There has been, and still is a lot of serious misinformation concerning the new EU 2006 emission regulations. Firstly, these are the ONLY regulations that affect recreational outboards sold in the UK and the rest of the EU. Contrary to popular belief, ALL outboard motors in use prior to the implementation of the new standard CAN continue to be used until they fall apart! The new directive does NOT BAN use of conventional 2-STROKES. Used outboards will still be able to be sold in the normal manner. Regarding the sale of NEW outboard motors, only spark ignition four stroke, new technology (Direct Injection) spark ignition two stroke and compression ignition engines will be capable of meeting the proposed standards. Spark ignition means all engines powered by petrol / gas, whilst compression ignition means engines powered by diesel. It has always been possible that an authority in charge of a particular area may impose their own local regulations. This applies primarily on inland waterways, and is most common on reservoirs, which often ban all engines except electric. So to reiterate, EVERY outboard motor in use prior to the implementation of the new standard CAN continue to be used under the EU 2006 emissions directive. e.&.o.e. ©
EU 2006 Standard EU 2006 Emissions Standards Label represents conformity to the EU emissions standards proposed by the Commission of the European Communities on 12th October 2000. IT IS THE ONLY EMISSION STANDARD THAT AFFECTS UK AND EU ENGINES. All other emission standards are irrelevant for the UK and the rest of the EU (for example EPA 2006, CARB 2004 /2008). The EU2006 standards will only affect the SUPPLY of NEW outboards for ‘RECREATIONAL’ use. By ‘recreational’, the regulators exclude engines for commercial registered vessels and racing engines. This text only is only with regard to recreational engines. ALL engines sold PRIOR to the full implementation of the standards on the dates shown below, may continue to be used. Effectively, after 31st December 2006, any NEW spark ignition two stroke outboard motor which does not meet the EU 2006 standards, (basically conventional carburettor / E.F.I. 2-strokes) will cease to be imported / manufactured into the UK and the rest of the EU. However, any engines held in stock by EU importers or dealers, which have been tax paid, are exempt as though they had been sold prior to the regulations. Equally, only spark ignition four stroke and compression ignition (diesel) outboards, which meet the regulations, may be sold from 31st December 2005, with the same exemption about stock units. It should be noted that the spark ignition four stroke and compression ignition engines are required to meet the regulations a year earlier than spark ignition 2-strokes. (For more details see "Emissions: The Truth") Unlike the EPA and CARB standards, the EU 2006 standard covers three constituents of exhaust emissions, and noise levels. The exhaust emissions included are nitrous oxide and hydrocarbons (as included in EPA & CARB standards) plus carbon monoxide. Consequently the EU 2006 standard is the most difficult to attain compared with EPA and CARB. Unlike the US standards that allow a percentage of ‘dirty’ engines to be sold, the EU 2006 standard will affect EVERY NEW engine sold in the EU. The EU 2006 standard is also the only standard that also covers noise levels for outboards. It should be noted that the EU2006 standard also affects inboard engines in a similar manner to outboards. e.&.o.e. ©
 
2-stroke engines have to be "in the distribution channel" before 1st January 2007 otherwise they can not be sold in the EU.

In practice this means that UK importers of outboards have been stocking up with 2-strokes before the end of the year and these will be available for sale to dealers until stocks run out. For example, walk into your local Mercury dealer and ask for a 75hp 2-stroke in June and even if they do not have one in stock, if the importer has one, then they will be able to order it.

But, when they're gone, they're gone!
 
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The polution from my 4hp outboatd must be staggering. It's used about a gallon of petrol this year. It's a wonder theres any air left on the planet. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

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Tell me about it! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif IMHO.......the polution from small modern 2 strokes is next to nowt, I really don't understand why it is considered to be more of a problem than disposing of used oil from 4 strokes? if you follow me drift.

On inland waters that are heavily used, yes I have seen the slicks that 2 strokes leave behind, but that is a different issue, to using a small 2 stroke as yacht tender power.

Well anyway, I don't see much point in any of us gettin'out of our prams over it, I for one will just make sure that I look after my new engine (5 hp 2 stroke), and make it last me a bloody long time! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Well I just bought a 25 year-old Seagull (yes I know its a very young one, but it doesn't look it!) Why you may ask - and even if you don't I will tell you.

I broke the fuel tap off my 10 year old Suzuki DT2 and a replacement, while only priced at £7.50 is on Manufacturer back order. ie. there aren't any in the retailers, or the wholesalers, or in the Distributers, or the manufacturer. I must wait untill there are enough orders worldwide for Suzuki to re-order from their suppliers! My chandler could not give me a date for that! So I got a Seagull, all parts are available for all of their models even though they have not been made for years!

Putting a Seagull on your tender is like sailing in a time warp. The smell & sound are unique - and despite the 25-1 mix it is far more ecologically friendly than a new 4stroke as its "footprint" is amortised over its 25 year life (only another 25 left tho' I suppose). How long will a new outboard last I wonder?
 
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