Bouba
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We had an escort but I wanted to get to the chips before they did
Otherwise it’s only pizza
Otherwise it’s only pizza
Med boaters - will you get to your boat this year?
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Bouba
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It’s a Beneteau??
LBRodders
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sarabande1
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I guess you're a Brit? Why do you have to have French registration and not British registration?
Bouba
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We live here full time and bought the boat here. Of course that means we have to pay the boat tax and engine tax
Bouba
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The Porquerolle ferry today
DavidJ
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I‘ve heard of your boat tax but what is engine tax?
Clancy Moped
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It's a matriculation tax paid annually, calculated on hp of the engine/s. There's a discount for boats registered in Bastia or Ajaccio.
Bouba
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First you need to calculate the administrative horsepower (as opposed to actual horsepower).
This is the formula :
P = K.N.d2.I
in which :
K represents a constant equal to 0.0045
N represents the number of cylinders
d represents the bore in centimeters
I represents the stroke in centimeters
Then there is another complicated way to calculate how much tax you pay on this administrative horsepower ;
(CV means HP, don’t forget, it’s administrative HP not actual HP)
| Up to 5 HP included | Exemption |
| From 6 to 8 CV | 14 ? per CV above the 5th |
| From 9 to 10 CV | 16 ? per CV above the 5th |
| From 11 to 20 CV | 35 ? per CV above the 5th |
| From 21 to 25 CV | 40 ? per CV above the 5th |
| From 26 to 50 CV | 44 ? per CV above the 5th |
| From 51 to 99 CV | 50 ? per CV above the 5th |
Example for a petrol outboard engine: The administrative power of a 225 HP Suzuki outboard is 20.71 HP. The amount of the francization tax is 525 €
Example for a diesel inboard engine: The administrative power of a 225 hp inboard Volvo Penta is 14.7 HP. The amount of the tax is 315 €.
Bouba
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Ps. The boat tax is just per meter
and don’t forget the above engine tax, it’s paid on the total amount of engines.
and don’t forget the above engine tax, it’s paid on the total amount of engines.
TwoHooter
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I wasted a large part of my life struggling to understand the way governments work.
I engaged in this struggle by applying my limited powers of intelligence and analysis to understanding the rules which governments dictate, which they call law (I don't mean natural law, I mean government law). I got quite good at it for a time, until I suddenly realised during the last 12 months that the intelligent response to government law is to ask the policeman, 'How much do you want, and do you take plastic?'
DavidJ
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Thanks for that......they really have it in for motor boaters.
MrB
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There are quite a few "Sarabande " named yachts, I see two raggies registered in the UK.
It's funny as I also thought it was someone's name but it's a Spanish dance by all accounts.
noun
noun: sarabande
- a slow, stately Spanish dance in triple time.
- a piece of music written for the saraband.
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DavidJ
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Copied and pasted from motorboatowner.co.uk
Perhaps I’m the only one who didn’t know.
HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) has announced a six-month extension to the 1-year grace period previously put in place by the government post Brexit for Returned Goods Relief, regardless of good’s exit date. This will benefit
boat owners and the marine industry, as extending the grace period for RGR until 30 June 2022 for all goods will allow boat owners to return their boats to the UK without incurring additional VAT costs.
Perhaps I’m the only one who didn’t know.
HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) has announced a six-month extension to the 1-year grace period previously put in place by the government post Brexit for Returned Goods Relief, regardless of good’s exit date. This will benefit
boat owners and the marine industry, as extending the grace period for RGR until 30 June 2022 for all goods will allow boat owners to return their boats to the UK without incurring additional VAT costs.
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Portofino
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The ball ( or should it be variant ? ) is in the EU court now .
let’s hope in the next 2 months to June they can get going better with there roll out .And lockdowns .
Covid: Europe's vaccine rollout 'unacceptably slow' - WHO
let’s hope in the next 2 months to June they can get going better with there roll out .And lockdowns .
Covid: Europe's vaccine rollout 'unacceptably slow' - WHO
sarabande1
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Correct and thats how we came to name our boat
Hooligan
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Looks to me as if med boaters will get to see their boats, albeit at some expense and possibly some quarantine on the way back although I remain of the view that by August most of the EU will be Green.
ps since the UK government has now officially said that the chance of anyone dying from Covid under 30 is equal to or less than the chance of dying from a blood clot (4 in 1mm) after the AZ vaccine, and in most of Europe have said that this is same for under 50, it seems a bit weird we would want or need to restrict much travel in Europe. Unless we are now in a zero risk tolerant society. Hey ho.
ps since the UK government has now officially said that the chance of anyone dying from Covid under 30 is equal to or less than the chance of dying from a blood clot (4 in 1mm) after the AZ vaccine, and in most of Europe have said that this is same for under 50, it seems a bit weird we would want or need to restrict much travel in Europe. Unless we are now in a zero risk tolerant society. Hey ho.
Bouba
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Although healthy young people have a very slim chance of dying from covid, long covid can be very debilitating for them
Portofino
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Which Corvid ? That’s the point .
If letting loose the relative healthy vaccinated U.K. pop into the EU which early on could be relatively unvaccinated in % terms .
This means as I have said there still a huge gene pool soup of serum ( the EU un vaxed ) , you do the maths what ever % of 445M for a variant/ mutant to emerge .Theses emerging variants might defeat the current U.K. Covid strain .
Thats the worry early on June / July ish .
By all means travel to the Scilly islands , isle of sky , Lewis etc ......the difference is the % vaxed pop of those islands is nearer 100 % .Say a Scottish island with 17 inhabitants all vaxed adults ......all multiple- ve test s .....tell me the chance of a variant emerging ?
I,ll save you haven’t to answer it’s zero .
Another simple analogy is 6 dice to throw 6 6 s .
One person every minute throws .24 hr day .Figure out the chances of throwing 6 6 s .....could be the first throw sure might be never ? Might be 2-3 times over a 24 hr period .
Now give what ever % of 445 M , let’s be kind 40 % so that’s 178 Million now chucking for 6 6 s , the un vaxed .
Test + quarantine is necessary if the numbers in the destinations are widely different to the UKs when you are roaming around mingling .
Having said that they will factor in a certain number of variants popping up domestically and a certain number brought it that escape testing / quarantine, esp with air travel.But the surveillance system can only cope with relatively small numbers and the risk of it being swamped is there , if you allow a free for all with unbalanced numbers .
Look no further than Brazil at the mo .I ,am not sure if any of the approved vaccines actual are effective enough there .
Current crop of uK seems to work with the U.K., variants thus far .
We don’t even know what the exact % effectiveness should be .We know the UKs age 85-95 % ish effective at reducing hospitalisation and a lesser 60 % at becoming a asymptomatic carrier .But wedo not know really how low the effectiveness needs to drop say down to 60 or 45 % to render it ineffective in the sense the numbers , cases , hospitalised , and deaths start rising . If they do start to rise ie the new imported virus starts with a variant to escape or as I say drop its % effectiveness , then it’s gonna throw the U.K. vax success out and force another round of “new variant “ vaccination program.
They say it takes 6 weeks after picking up the new variant that s renders the current program ineffective to manufacture, or start manufacturing a new “ variant vaccine “.
Seems a shame to risk having to do this so soon after ending ( by July 21 ) the current vaccination program.......in a hurry with yet another lockdown because of a few or a lot of tourist s bringing a “ new variant “ in say in June / July while the EU have only partially vaxed up there pop .
Its all about balancing up the numbers and equalising the risks bit like changing gear balancing the revs and road speed etc .
The rpm in the EU is increasing and the road speed in the U.K. is braking ( vax program) slowing .= crunch of cogs
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Portofino
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B .1-1-7 is labelled the “ U.K. “ and is what the UKs is successfully defeating currently .
Its not clear how effective the two current vaccines used are with the others .....that’s the point .
So until that info emerges , which it will in the EU by the summer ........best to be cautious.
Cases, Data, and Surveillance
Its not clear how effective the two current vaccines used are with the others .....that’s the point .
So until that info emerges , which it will in the EU by the summer ........best to be cautious.
Cases, Data, and Surveillance