YM looking for your winter sailing pictures

[Rob MBM Editor]

Hello all

YM is putting together a feature on winter sailing. We're after some great pictures! Do you have shots of sailing with snow on the decks, of hot drinks held in the mitten'd hands of a grinning but chilly crew, of a Solent deserted except for your own hardy selves?

Do send them to me at rob underscore peake at ipcmedia.com or PM me with the details and I'll get back to you.

They need to be quite high-res to print in the magazine but we'll choose a selection for inclusion in our Jan issue, with details of the snapper, yacht, where and when ect.

Come on you can give Snooks a run for his money!

Thanks

Rob

 

[Ex-SolentBoy]

Hello all

YM is putting together a feature on winter sailing. We're after some great pictures! Do you have shots of sailing with snow on the decks, of hot drinks held in the mitten'd hands of a grinning but chilly crew, of a Solent deserted except for your own hardy selves?

Do send them to me at rob underscore peake at ipcmedia.com or PM me with the details and I'll get back to you.

They need to be quite high-res to print in the magazine but we'll choose a selection for inclusion in our Jan issue, with details of the snapper, yacht, where and when ect.

Come on you can give Snooks a run for his money!

Thanks

Rob

Clearly Snooks' salary has become too expensive for IPC. Does that mean you will be offering commercial rates for the use of our exceptional pictures?

 

[awol]

... and the payments?

 

[AliM]

"of a Solent deserted except for your own hardy selves?"

Do they have to be on the Solent - if so why?

 

[Lakesailor]

Even lowly mags pay piccies at a page rate of about £100.
YM must be able to manage better than that...............

 

[dylanwinter]

v happy

you chaps....

goodness me...

.....expecting to get paid for pics taken for fun of your hobby

you should offer them for the honour alone and also to enhender sense of community



IPC please feel to lift any frames from any of my films

they are available behind a paywall at.....



oh I see what I did there

Dylan

PS all images 1080 x 1920

not sure if that is big enough for you chaps

and here is a film about winter sailing - although I might have linked to it before

http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/ktl-scuttlebutt/scuttlebutt-66-winter-sailing/

PPS - one of your blokes did say at one time that they were interested in doing an item about the slug

which has now been renamed "THE PRINCESS"

 

[Ex-SolentBoy]

you chaps....

goodness me...

.....expecting to get paid for pics taken for fun of your hobby

you should offer them for the honour alone and also to enhender sense of community



IPC please feel to lift any frames from any of my films

they are available behind a paywall at.....



oh I see what I did there

Dylan

PS all images 1080 x 1990

not sure if that is big enough for you chaps

and here is a film about winter sailing - although I might have linked to it before

http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/ktl-scuttlebutt/scuttlebutt-66-winter-sailing/

PPS - one of your blokes did say at one time that they were interested in doing an item about the slug

which has now been renamed "THE PRINCESS"

Dylan,

you have

missed the point.

if publications can source there material for free, they will no longer

have need

for people, or journalists, or photographers who




like you





try to make a living doing that stuff


I think IPC should go the whole way, ditch their staff and just troll the internet for articles, pictures and news! Great idea that.

 

[dylanwinter]

note to self

Dylan,

you have

missed the point.

if publications can source there material for free, they will no longer

have need

for people, or journalists, or photographers who




like you





try to make a living doing that stuff


I think IPC should go the whole way, ditch their staff and just troll the internet for articles, pictures and news! Great idea that.

must stop (deliberatly) missing the point

although a mag trolling for a few free snaps - no real objection to that even though I am a freelance hack

IPC were so good to me in the past

they used to provide me with a Vauxhall Astra and then a Ford Sierra and a Red Star petrol card. I used the Sierra to tow the eboat all over the Uk using IPC petrol

so I owe you guys..... I really owe you

yours very, very gratefully

Dylan

 

[Ex-SolentBoy]

Ah, so you have been paid already!

 

[dylanwinter]

I have

Ah, so you have been paid already!

towed a 22 foot long eboat on a four wehel trailer all the way to Scotland three summers on the trot.

The sierra was a bog std 1600cc

killed a sierra engine every summer and they never once told me off

bless them



and I think a world without yachting mags would be a slightly sadder place

Dylan

 

[photodog]

must stop (deliberatly) missing the point

although a mag trolling for a few free snaps - no real objection to that even though I am a freelance hack

IPC were so good to me in the past

they used to provide me with a Vauxhall Astra and then a Ford Sierra and a Red Star petrol card. I used the Sierra to tow the eboat all over the Uk using IPC petrol

so I owe you guys..... I really owe you

yours very, very gratefully

Dylan

Glad to see you got yours! Less happy to see that you are happy if a publisher seeks to exploit those that come after by paying nothing...

IPC's 2010 profits were up 12% on 2009 to just over £50 million.
(They did make a one-off £20 million contribution to their pension pot....)

They can afford to invest in their products.

 

[snooks]

Just where did Rob say YM wouldn't be paying for pictures?

Oh, hang on he didn't. But you all jumped to that conclusion anyway

 

[dylanwinter]

free stuff

Glad to see you got yours! Less happy to see that you are happy if a publisher seeks to exploit those that come after by paying nothing...

IPC's 2010 profits were up 12% on 2009 to just over £50 million.
(They did make a one-off £20 million contribution to their pension pot....)

They can afford to invest in their products.

well here I am a jobbing freelance - so I am one of the ones that came after.

You make an interesting moral argument there photodog

- but morality and mammon seldom sleep together.

I think the affluence or profit margins of the people you work for has seldom had much of a relationship to the amount of money you might expect to be paid for your labour - otherwise we would all be trying to get one of those extremely desirable jobs for one of the super affluent oil companies. We would sitting behind a till in a garage selling expensive petrol and attempting to "upsell" bars of chocolate and being paid hundreds of pounds a day as opposed the minimum wage they get in the real world.


magazines have always used their readers as a free resource

I was a hack on Farmers weekly and they used to run photographic competitions - helped to fill endless pages for free.

Readers letters - exactly the same - fill the space

Press releases - those pages they suggest are about local or latest news - all free copy.

same today, same as it always has been.

Nowdays the contracts that come across my desk demand that I sign away my rights to the specified material using the phrase

"in perpetuity and in the known, and as yet unknown, Universe"

I just sign it and send it back - it means very little in these days of easily copied digits.

My films are spread across disks, dongles and hard drives all over the place...I am honoured that people would want to copy my work.

I don't even bother putting a copyright symbol on any of my films or attempt to make the dvds hard to copy.

Last time I wrote a few words for PBO they were paying £50 a picture and £100 a thousand for the words

that was at least 25 years ago now.

I write a column for small craft advisor and I earn $100 a thousand

- pics supplied foc.

Very pleased to have the work

and as a freelance it always pays to be cheerful, biddable, reliable and to avoid moaning about the publishers or broadcasters.

It seldom pays to bite the hand.....

Just keep shovelling

Dylan

 

[Vara]

which has now been renamed "THE PRINCESS"

You can put lipstick on a pig but it's...

 

[Sandy]

Come on you can give Snooks a run for his money!

My usual fee then? Or two years free subscription?

 

[Koeketiene]

Just where did Rob say YM wouldn't be paying for pictures?

So, YM is paying for pics?

Oh, hang on he didn't. But you all jumped to that conclusion anyway

Quite right - maybe this thread should be moved to The Lounge

 

[Lakesailor]

I write a column for small craft advisor and I earn $100 a thousand

- pics supplied foc.

Dylan

Some backwaters magazine, CanalBoat I think (see what I did there?) told me they never pay for pictures. They all come from readers.
There is little value in images these days.

 

[Whiskey Bravo]

Hello all

YM is putting together a feature on winter sailing. We're after some great pictures! Do you have shots of sailing with snow on the decks, of hot drinks held in the mitten'd hands of a grinning but chilly crew, of a Solent deserted except for your own hardy selves?

Do send them to me at rob underscore peake at ipcmedia.com or PM me with the details and I'll get back to you.

They need to be quite high-res to print in the magazine but we'll choose a selection for inclusion in our Jan issue, with details of the snapper, yacht, where and when ect.

Come on you can give Snooks a run for his money!

Thanks

Rob

I've plenty of pics of BVI in Nov/Dec or Thailand in December, but I guess that's the wrong sort of winter sailing for you.
Scotland in March might fit the bill though.

 

[snooks]

There is little value in images these days.

Heretic!...BURN HIM!

 

[dylanwinter]

heretics are usually right

Heretic!...BURN HIM!

I think that he is dead right - good shots of boats are now so easy to get - the cameras are better and cheaper - and each shot now costs almost nothing to take

when good quality transparency film cost you 6 shots then all photographic images had a base value - the cost of capturing them

you did think before squeezing the shutter for the fifth time on that folkboat

now snap away and chuck 90 per cent of them away

My cameras now capture 25 frames a second - each frame is 1080 x 1920

each frame is utterly worthless

so lakey is dead right

he is a prophet rather than a heretic

Dylan

PS how many snappers at yachting mags now

I seem to remember that farmers weekly had at least four on the staff - now I suspect they have none at all