Yacht losing/lost sails ...Hardway.

[Bav34]

No, it doesn't belong to the five forumites (who still haven't signed their Direct Debits for my guardiennage ) whose boats I keep an eye on.

The genny has detached from the forestay, the plastic bag (!) over the main has gone ... the main is now billowing. the boom is doing a 180.

 

[fireball]

Kinda begs the question on why the halyard was left connected ... IMHO far better to disconnect it then at least the sail is only attached by 2 points ...

 

[sailorman]

Kinda begs the question on why the halyard was left connected ... IMHO far better to disconnect it then at least the sail is only attached by 2 points ...

the sail on the halyard is the Genoa that came off of the foil

 

[fireball]

ok - didn't look like that to me, but I think Bav34 needs a bigger zoom!!

 

[Athene V30]

When there has been a sail starting to billow near my boat I have gone onboard and secured it. As I live over 50 miles from my boat I just hope the same would be done for me. Obviously not in the solent.

 

[Bav34]

Nope ... no need for a bigger zoom ... sent Mrs Bav out wading through the mud and she reports that it is in fact just his Main.

Twas flying around so much this morning that I thought is was both sails.

Have reported it to Hardway Sailing Club.

She seems to be struggling to get back ... plucky little thing. I would help but I'm busy writing this.

Who's going to cook dinner if she doesn't make it? I need to be told.

 

[emsworthy]

the sail on the halyard is the Genoa that came off of the foil

Have to say I thought it was the main as well. It doesn't look like the boat in question even has a headfoil, it's pretty skinny if it does, but I could be wrong as I don't exactly have the best monitor.

 

[Bav34]

When there has been a sail starting to billow near my boat I have gone onboard and secured it. As I live over 50 miles from my boat I just hope the same would be done for me. Obviously not in the solent.

Nice one.

I was waiting for criticism.

Exactly how am I supposed to get out there? Do you think that I should have a R.I.B. permanently on stand by to sort out other peoples problems? Do you think that even if my inflatable was at hand that I should go out in the 40 knots offshore wind that was blowing this afternoon?

Do tell.

 

[Athene V30]

I was waiting for criticism.

Used to sail in Solent in my teens and from memory Hardway was a Sailing Club so surely there is some sort of club official / secretariat that could be contacted to get in touch with the owner so he can sort ths problem? It comes across that you are on one of the moorings so you would know who manages them and could tell them perhaps to get onto the owner?

No, I would not expect anyone to go out in 40 kts in a rubber duck to sort the problem, but aren't there other ways round it too?

Posting a picture on here came across to me as gloating at someone else's misfortune.

 

[Bav34]

Used to sail in Solent in my teens and from memory Hardway was a Sailing Club so surely there is some sort of club official / secretariat that could be contacted to get in touch with the owner so he can sort ths problem? It comes across that you are on one of the moorings so you would know who manages them and could tell them perhaps to get onto the owner?

No, I would not expect anyone to go out in 40 kts in a rubber duck to sort the problem, but aren't there other ways round it too?

Posting a picture on here came across to me as gloating at someone else's misfortune.

1. Tried to contact the club directly. No answer but one of my neighbours went up there. I've been out. No idea of outcome.
2. I am NOT on an HSC mooring nor do I belong to HSC ... speculation on your behalf.
3. Other ways round it? 40 knots ... see Chimet ... boom swinging through 180 degrees. Again ... do tell.
4. Gloating ???? Words really do fail me.

 

[Mark-1]

3. Other ways round it?

You could call QHM and ask them to run the MODPlod(tm) Police Launch over - they're often down that way anyway and I'd think 15 minutes spent tucking up the main would be a welcome break from the monotony of their job. In fact they'd probably bite your hand off for the excuse to do it.

 

[Bav34]

You could call QHM and ask them to run the MODPlod(tm) Police Launch over - they're often down that way anyway and I'd think 15 minutes spent tucking up the main would be a welcome break from the monotony of their job. In fact they'd probably bite your hand off for the excuse to do it.

Yes, thanks Mark ... the last THREE occasions that I have had cause to phone them they

1. saved a guys life ... found clinging to one of the outer buoys after falling out of a Mirror
2. pulled two people off the mudbank opposite us ... out in an inflatable in a F6 ... threw them a line
3. declined to come inshore to the relevant moorings due to draft considerations ... I'm pretty sure it's the same guys boat ... last time it ended up on its side due to mooring failure ... this time because he left his halyard attached and covered his main with bin bags it's cost him.

I already (as mentioned) have the contact details of five forumites in case of problems and wasn't it you that I tried to help out with the Sigma when it was hit? If not you it doesn't matter.

I do try to help but I am not a one man rescue service.

 

[jonjo]

I do try to help but I am not a one man rescue service.

Just ignore the East Coast fool, you perform a fine public service here.

Any yacht owner who leaves a halyard attached to the main, particularly in the autumn with high winds forecast, deserved zero sympathy.

 

[Poignard]

Obviously not in the solent.

What basis do you have to say that?

I used to have a mooring near Hardway and would climb onto other people's boats to secure loose items if I happened to see them. So would anyone else I know.

As a matter of fact I have just returned from the despised Solent where I had my boat lifted out today in quite tricky conditions, along with several other boats, everyone in the vicinity helped each other. Even those with blue ensigns.

Your remark was stupid and childish.

 

[srp]

Any yacht owner who leaves a halyard attached to the main, particularly in the autumn with high winds forecast, deserved zero sympathy.

It has never occurred to me to take the halyard off, until now that is. And I'm normally fairly thorough when it comes to leaving the boat ship-shape, so I'll add this to the list. Thanks for the tip. (I did actually remove the sails and the boom on Friday before this blow came through, and I'm very glad I did too. I'm sure I would have lost the foresail at least).
As for Solent sailors not looking after each other, I beg to differ. Both the Newport and the Cowes Harbour people were out in the worst of it on Saturday sorting out boats, sails, pontoons, fenders etc.

 

[KINGFISHER 9]

Well done Bav34 .... you've done a good enough job but it doesn't matter how helpful you try to be ... you can guarantee there'll be a t0sser along to criticise you in a minute. If he's an example of an East Coast type (which I doubt) then I'm glad I sail in the Solent ... where people are obviously more positive and do their best to help.

 

[sailorman]

Well done Bav34 .... you've done a good enough job but it doesn't matter how helpful you try to be ... you can guarantee there'll be a t0sser along to criticise you in a minute. If he's an example of an East Coast type (which I doubt) then I'm glad I sail in the Solent ... where people are obviously more positive and do their best to help.

Yah Hoo, Pwr to the corporate sailor types

 

[jonjo]

It has never occurred to me to take the halyard off, until now that is.

Presumably you rig some anti frap tie on the main halyard? I find it quicker to take the halyard off and clip it onto the pushpit rail.

 

[Chris_Robb]

Bav 34
Re Direct debits.
Is this what you us to buy a drink in the pub at lunch time??? there are a few stacked up I think!

As for that chap from somewhere other than the solent - he has misread your message - I am sure he did not really mean to be that rude.

'nother blow later this week.

 

[Bav34]

Bav 34
I am sure he did not really mean to be that rude.
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Hi Chris, this forum sure is a strange place at times.

When I posted about a powerboat hitting a Sigma someone criticised me for not publishing the name of the Sigma ... it was half a mile away!

When I was looking for the person who hit my boat and damaged it in twelve different places it was suggested that as a child hadn't been run over it wasn't really that big a deal

When I posted that my boat had hit 10 knots I had people getting into LWL calculations and claiming it was impossible because the GPS was showing a lower speed than the log ... it's called tide against!

And now this ... at risk of turning into a South coast vs East coast rant .. a bit like raggies vs mobos or MAB's vs AWB's.

All pretty sad stuff in my opinion ... I did what I could to alert the owner OR FRIENDS of the owner to a problem but by taking a photo to show which boat I'm made to feel like an accident rubbernecker.

Blimey.