Yacht for a MoBoer?

[Moose]

Evening all
I am seriously looking at taking the jump from a 37ft MoBo that does 30+kts to a Yachtie thing with flappy fabric things for one reason or another.
I would be looking at something in the 42-48ft range and a couple of years old (say newer than 1998) Any recommendations as to where I start? I like the look of the new Oceanis 42cc from Beneteau so lets start there.

Ian

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[Neraida]

There are lots of yachts but price range would help to narrow it down a bit.

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[whisper]

1. Do you want to go anywhere in particular when you go boating ?
If so then forget about a saily thing.
2. Do you want to spend about 60% of your time on a slow MOTORboat ?
If yes then buy a saily thing.
3. Do you and yours enjoy living on a slope for 40% of the time ?
If so then buy a saily thing.
4. Do you enjoy being able to turn the boat on the spot ?
If so then forget about a saily thing.
5. Do you ever have a time scale to keep to ?
If so forget the saily thing 'cos you won't dare to go anywhere in case the wind/tide conspires to prevent you returning on time.

Don't do it !! You'll get bored to tears on most passages.

If you have actually lost all your senses then a nice Deck Saloon job will do.

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[sailorman]

look on
www.devalk.nl
their site is very good with full spec. + photos both internal & exterior.
all in english, a better site than most "marine electroincs" sites who should be ashamed of thier pathetic efforts.

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[TonyD]

Have a look at one of these:
<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.wauquiez.com/GB/containers_gb/PilotSaloon_gb.htm>Wauquiez Pilot Saloon 40 or 43</A>

Similar size, better quality and the "deck saloon" concept may appeal more to an ex-Mobo.

TonyD

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[kidnapped]

I presume the budget must be the 'thick end' of £140,000 by the time you've tooled it up. I would suggest that any boat of this type, shallow foot, beamy will ocasionally slam, but you might not worry about this coming from a MoBo,and only point moderately or not at all in a blow. You'll also be used to good shelter when things get tousy.
What else can you get for this wedge? 2nd hand [previously enjoyed!] Moody Eclipse 43, Bowman 48, Oyster 46 which will provide decent sailing performance and shelter. maybe some money left over for renewals / bank account [red deisel tax!!] Or perhaps Moody 47, ..... sorry can't think of any centre cockpit examples that are not older versions of Ben 42cc, perhaps others can.
Good luck, you'll probably change it anyway for the one you really want in a year or two .....

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[Neraida]

Dufour 45? 1998'ish . There are a few on the boat search section

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[Moose]

Oooh, that sounds nice.

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[Talbot]

How about a Nautor Swan 48?

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[bigmart]

Funny your comments re Sail versus Mobo. The only time I went on a Mobo cruise I was bored to tears. I found the whole experience totally lacking in any sort of pleasure. When the owner filled it up with diesel at the end of the trip, some fifteen years ago by the way, the bill was near £250 for a trip from the Thames to Brighton, I was convinced that Mobo's have nothing to offer me. If you want to get there quick take a Ferry.

Martin

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[Moose]

Yes, that looks lovely but it must be mega bucks!!!

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[steverow]

Err...now I'm really confused.

Steve.


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[LadyInBed]

Speak to Mr Max - He has just done it for real.

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[Neraida]

OK, quite expensive, but i have this... <A target="_blank" HREF=http://ybw.yachtworld.com/core/uk/listing/pl_boat_full_detail.jsp?boat_id=824052&units=Feet&currency=GBP&access=Public&listing_id=1728&url=>Craelock 44</A>

These boats are extremely tough and sea kindly apart from being very nicely built.

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[Moose]

I want something that is tough, not tooooooo slow and is well made with good gear on it. Most of all it needs to be comfortable for some fairly extended trips. I am going to Moody's brokerage on Saturday to look at a Moody 46 although I fear it may be too much.

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[alahol2]

An easier step may be into a decent sized catamaran. Level, fast, manoeverable with twin donks.

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[Moose]

Erm well, I don't think I want a cat! I delivered a Prout 40 something to Salcombe from Southampton with a friend a couple of years ago. I do no fancy tacking at 50' and slamming on every 2nd wave for 20 hours!!!

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[Robin]

We have a club member who made the switch 2 yrs back from a series of 40ft plus mobos and he bought a new Jeanneau 43DS, a deck saloon model. He had nil sailing experience previously but has made the switch very well and is enjoying it, still has the mobo habit of reversing into his berth too which he's very good at (does have a bow thruster). He seems very pleased with the 43DS and when I last spoke to him he was considering the newest big Jeanneau 48(?) and maybe doing the ARC!

You might want to look at Malos and Halberg Rassys too though they are a bit pricier per ft than some and might need to be a touch older (or smaller) to fit the budget.





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[whisper]

Agreed, two very different experiences - I regularly do both. A favourable stiff breeze provides a great "back to nature" feeling with relatively quiet progress and the motion is far more gentle than with most mobos. It also provides satisfaction in getting the most out of the boat and prevailing conditions. Unfortunately such a situation doesn't seem to occur very often and aimlessly "drifting about" at less than 5 knts or going in the "wrong" direction is the norm. This feels like a waste of time to me - suppose I'm a philistine in this regard. I have a destination in mind and want to get there reasonably quickly.
In very rough weather I'd far rather be under sail and a yacht seems much easier to handle in such conditions.
Hope we both have a good Summer, though, with our different wind requirements, that could be difficult /forums/images/icons/smile.gif.
John.

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[plombier]

This "change of direction" would have nothing to do with your post in MoboChat about red diesel per chance? Selling the Mobo before the price drops

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