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[jeffro]

just done my turn in the bar at my yacht club as i opened the bar 2 teenagers came in asked if they could play pool .Iasked if they was with members as it was a commitee night and there was a meeting and as they was not members they should play elsewhere and they went now my car was in the car park only one as it was early wing mirrow torn off deep scratch whole length of the car and an enormous dent in the rear wing now put yourself in my place if you had cought them what would you have done ?

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[tcm]

i'd probably have let them play pool, but pontificated about their shot selection...

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[jeffro]

yes should have pointed my yacht out to them and turned the other cheek

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[tcm]

No, tellem it's winner stay on and house stakes are a tenner. If it goes badly, invent loads of mad retrospective rules such as the black ball has to go down the same hole as the last but one hole as on wednesday, so thiv lost, again.

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[A_7]

Where is this rather rough club?

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[jeffro]

it could be your club think about it!

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[A_7]

My yacht club with a pool table! I think not!!

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[mickshep]

It's to be hoped that the one that put the big dent in the back didn't break his toes doing it or he will probably be at the solicitors already. (No win, No fee you know). After all I bet you didn't have a sign warning of the danger involved in smashing up your car.
Personally after being the victim once too often I've given up on law and order. The next little tw*t I catch damaging mine, or robbing me is going to get hurt and bug*er the consequences. (Self defence your honour). Not P.C i'm afraid but something has to be done. Mike.

<hr width=100% size=1>My Mum say's I'm not a fat b@st@rd, just heavy boned.

 

[BustinAround]

Well, if somebody attempted to rob you, you would be able to get away with punching them till they fall over and then jumping up and down on them.

If you want to get away with it when somebody is vandalising your car, you have to go and politely ask them if they could stop please. Then, after they've tried to hit you, do the above

I too have given up on law and order to protect my sorry arse, the police don't care, and they can't stop it happening in the first place anyway. My new weapon?
samurai ju-jitsu!

http://www.jitsufoundation.org/


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[mikewilkes]

With the way Blair's nanny state is going what do you really expect.
Perhaps it is time for some Far East justice. Remember the American kid who was caned in S'pore for scratching a car???? Remember that if you are caught with drugs in Malaysia the max penalty is death.


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[mickshep]

About 18 months ago I stood at my bedroom window on the phone to the police describing the actions of about 6 youths armed with fence stakes engaged in breaking into a car accross the road. (About 30' away) I gave a detailed description of the youths down to the type of gloves/trainers worn. After several minutes myself and several neighbours confronted them at which point they ran off.
The police arrived some half an hour later and promptly arrested the ring leader some streets away. We were then asked if we could i.d the lad concerned. No problem bring him on".
The police response?
"Oh no! If we show you him, his brief will say you were likely to i.d him just because he was in the car."
I then suggested an i.d parade, but was advised that this could not be arranged for several wks at least. (I have since been informed by another officer that this was rubbish) Result. He walked whilst my neighbour had a bill for new locks and ignition.
Justice these days is an outdated concept, relegated to the same black hole as manners, respect for your elders and working for a living etc, We live in a country where the term 'Human rights' have become a catch all for the dregs of society, (For instance the prisoner who sued because life inside was too boring and therefore infringed his human rights).
Such stupidity comes with the ample back up of certain members of the legal profession who grow rich and fat on the bringing of cases that by rights should never see the inside of a court room and paid for by the same tax payers the system is meant to protect.
Confidence in the legal system? I have none.
Mike.

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[cloudnine]

Thanks, that saved me the trouble of writing the same sentiment!
Brian

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[BustinAround]

Oddly enough, your argument sounds similar to how marx explained religion
Maybe you're cleverer than you think!

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[mikewilkes]

The sentiments you put forward are probably agreed with by most sane members of society - but what the hell do you do about it?

Remember some member of the legal proffession, across the pond, got very rich by sueing Macdonalds for having hot coffee. It burnt her " lips " she said when it spilt. She was driving her car at the time and she had put the coffe cup between her legs.

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[jhr]

... which is why all styrofoam cup lids -over here as well as in the US - now have wording akin to "warning: contents may be hot" printed on them.

Despite lots of moaning about compensation culture and the kind of nation we are turning into, most of the blame, imho, can be laid at the feet of the legalisation of "no win, no fee" arrangements in the UK a few years back. This has given people a means of bringing frivolous cases, usually without any financial exposure to themselves. The motivation for bringing many such cases - personal greed - used to be outweighed by the not inconsiderable risk of any award being outweighed by the legal fees arising. Now, a firm of solicitors can pursue such cases, knowing that manufacturers and suppliers will carry product and/or public liability insurance and that the insurers will normally prefer to settle (because it's cheaper) than to go to court, even when they know they are in the right.

Of course, solicitors get flak for encouraging such cases, but you might as well blame a crocodile for biting you - it's in their nature.

What's particularly distressing about this is that the cases that really matter, such as that of somebody who has been crippled for life through another's negligence, still seem to take many years to settle. Even worse, the validity of such a claim gets cheapened by association with the rest.

Nurse! Nurse!

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[mikewilkes]

<Even worse, the validity of such a claim gets cheapened by association with the rest.>

Could not agree more. Read Grisham's King of Torts recently and was gobsmacked at what goes on.


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[AlexL]

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knowing that manufacturers and suppliers will carry product and/or public liability insurance and that the insurers will normally prefer to settle (because it's cheaper) than to go to court, even when they know they are in the right.

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You are almost correct - rather you are absolutely correct but there is an extra bit which nobody tells you about, least of all the insurance companies (who blame no win no fee for their increased premiums).
Law firms don't take the financial risk of loosing cases - all that happens in no win no fee cases is that the law firm takes an out insurance policy, which pays the legal fees should they loose. It is actually the provision of this type of insurance which has caused (the actually much exagerated) proliferation of no win no fee cases.

Insurance companies it seems are biting their own hands whilst feeding themselves or some such similar analogy!


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[Clive_Rigden]

99% of solicitors give the rest a bad name . . .

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[mikewilkes]

Oh dear how many lawyer's have we got on here ????????

Could be in for a right flaming Khyber

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[Cobra]

So, the percentage of those giving the rest a bad name is as low as that is it? They will soon have a reputation as good as that of Estate Agents!

<hr width=100% size=1>When God invented time he didn't give me enough of it. ND!