Wotheell is issa vang

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Why do raggiggies have such nancy names for everything by the time you finish saying the long silly word its to late and they are aground.Why cannot they be like us ie."Oi go to the pointy end", or "Quick for chrissake grab the sticky thing and push etc etc.
 

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Must agree. I cant do with all the fancy names for everything.
I go out of my way, in the oposit direction.
The lazerety or what ever thingy is just the celler on our boat
The fly bridge is refered to as. Upstairs.
And that bit at the back with all the seats is refered to, and depending if we've got the tent up, as patio, conservetory, back yard and greenhouse. With the boat in motion or when hailing others. Its "Get yer arse end round here." This is much more straight fall wards than. "Steer to port astern" as with the bow going to starboard, could be confusing.

Ropes always remain as ropes and never become painters, sheets, halyards or other. Cos that way we only need long ones, short ones or thick ones, which is quite enough choice in the rope locker.

Haydn
 

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My witty acerbic but to the point reply to byrons post is err well um .I spect I will think of something in a week or two .Off to look at some boats now.Where is Essex by the way.
 
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Re: an oldgit ambush!

i thort you were a bit raggie anyway, oldgit?

Anyway, a vang might be a yank word for a kicking strap. Cos boats with vangs don't seem to have kicking straps. which holds the boom up. Or down. One or the other. Sometimes, when the sailyboat isn't going fast enuf, i tighten this up. At other times, when the boat is standing still, it seems terribly tight, so I let it go slack. But not too much. In case it holds the boom up, instead of down. There's also a cringle hook somewhere around this area, sometimes, and a halyard, I believe. None of these are too important, because the main thing on a saily boat is marked "main". Which is quite logical, you have to admit.
 

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Re:a RAGGIE

raggie raggie. who is speading these vile unfounded fibbs.O the shame.direct me to the nearest high building I shall end it all.
 
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Re:a RAGGIE

No need for a high building with a nice sailyboat. There's that awful bosuns chair caper. Now, why would anyone want to go up there (other than of course, to top oneself) ?
 

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Re:a boson chair

Just a cheapo raggy method of seeing where going most difficult way possible..Why not purchase proper boat with permanent bosun chair. Flybridge.
 

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After nearly 20 years of sailing my wife still refuses to use nancy nautical terms. Our boat has point end, blunt end etc.
This started when I asked her which side of a buoy she was going to pass - prolonged thought followed by the answer "sideboard"

I long since stopped trying fight this and joined in.

First day of Coastal Skipper course, my first command as "skipper" - "Let go the pointy end"

Howls of derision from crew and instructor.

By day 3 all crew referring to pointy end etc. Instructor reduced to giving dirty looks.

By end of course Instructor reduced to referring to pointy end.

Amazingly I did get the ticket.

Happy Xmas
 
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I am most impressed, and heartened. I see no problem with the words "kitchen", "bedroom" "bogs" , and so on.

I used to go to the bakery across from skool and demand a "custard sludge", my pet name for a vanilla slice. It took over a year to get them to use the same name. Eventually,even when I asked for a vanilla slice, they corrected the term to a "custard sludge".
 

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Now you've really got matts started on his pet subject, but for chrissake don't ask him about port and starboard or we'll be here for ages.

And why do raggies have cars on their boats, wotisit anyway?
 
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Re: sailboats, cars: all u need to know

The front sail on a saily boat right? It's held on to the mast at the top, and at the pointy end at the bottom. But the third corner (nearest the driver) is held on with a rope. Otherwise flap flapp flap. Now, that long rope (usually it's blue) goes round the winding round shiny capstan oh wotsit called self-tailing thing where the rope has to go round clockwise . Anyway, there's one on of'em each side, for using depending on which way you're going - But just BEFORE it goes round the winding bit it goes through and UNDER bit of metal like what they have in chandlery shops where you say Eh? looks a bit bit saily, wrong aisle - Now, that bit of metal, connected to the deck with a bit of long metal with holes for other postions, see, where the rope goes thru - that's a "car".

"Car" might be short for "carrier". Or it might be named after Sir Admiral John Carr, whom I just made up. Or it might be named after the way that sixteenth century sailors referred to it eg "I wish I had a car, instead of being on this dog slow sailing boat". Yes, probly the last one.

If you ever go on a sailyboat, and need to look useful(ish) to the skipper , askim if the "cars" are positoned where he wants them. Don't worry - the skipper always says "yes, I'd say so", because either 1) they are indeed in the correct position ....or 2) he hasn't got a clue.

Under no circumstances try to adjust the car when the rope is through them - fiddle with the car on the OTHER side - where the rope would be if the front sail would be if you did the rather shabby tacky turning business, the leeho! thing again - otherwise it will rip your fingers a lot.

If you *are* the skipper, move the other car on the side (where the blue rope isn't) a notch or two forward or backwards, to look as though you know something. If you are the skipper, and someone ELSE mucks about with the cars, say "no, leave it as it was" for commanding effect. As always, with saily things "about halfway" is a very safe bet.

Note that the position of the cars makes almost no difference whatsoever, compared with turning the engine on and giving it some stick.

Anyway, never mind about this "cars" business, weren't you supposed to be getting us a beer or making a cup of tea? So where is it then, eh? Blimmin crew. Eh? He's not been on five minutes! I don't suppose you have the slightest clue as to whether we're on a Broad Reach or a Dead Run eh? No, see, it's neither! I'm on Tennants Extra, and, well, you'll just have to ask the others...
 
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