Worst Bar/Entrance In Uk?

[C08]

Following on from another thread, what is considered to be the worst/most dangerous bar or entrance in the UK. I am well acquainted with the delights of the likes of Carnarfon, Aberdovey, Barmouth and to a lesser extent some of the south coast nasties, but I have mostly managed to avoid really bad conditions in those sort of places.
It would be interesting to list the top ((say) 10 entrances/bars in descending order of evilness. It may well be that some of these generally thought of as very dangerous are more perceived as dangerous (over rated) rather than actually dangerous and others less well known (generally under rated) are actually more dangerous. What do people think?

 

[dom]

Following on from another thread, what is considered to be the worst/most dangerous bar or entrance in the UK.

What do people think?

No first hand experience, but most dangerous proably Newport IoW, followed by the one just beside Ocean Village

 

[awol]

Black Bull, Rothesay? Or perhaps Mishnish wearing a green and white scarf?

 

[NickRobinson]

Wells can be interesting (see breakers behind actors)

 

[Little Five]

strangford loch

 

[GHA]

The Swamp.

In Hoo on the Medway. Now gone.

One of the crazier bars I've passed through

 

[C08]

strangford loch

The difficulty is you tend not to mess with those sort of places and get the timing and weather normally spot on. I have found Strangford like a mill pond and taken a real pasting at the (relatively) benign Carlingford entrance!

 

[Bru]

It used to be a dodgy business getting into the bar of the Ferry Boat at Fambridge until somebody nailed a bit of rubber tyre onto the low beam across the doorway. That's one of the worst bar entrances I've encountered

 

[savageseadog]

Doom Bar? Never done it but looked bad on TV, takes a full oceanic swell on there.

Caernarfon Bar is potentially the worst I've done but never done it in bad conditions (that's what your're supposed to do right?)

Liverpool Bar can be extremely bad with lots of tide and wind against. There's probably no risk of grounding but the steepness and height of waves in relatively moderate conditions is quite bad.

 

[NickRobinson]

Doom Bar? Never done it but looked bad on TV, takes a full oceanic swell on there.

Done it twice, (in and then out) middling but not serious as the later straight overnight to Milford Haven

Caernarfon Bar is potentially the worst I've done but never done it in bad conditions (that's what your're supposed to do right?)

Twice again, both in. Daylight first time, yacht ahead lost its towed tender. Then solo at night (calm) Glad I dloaded and inputted the current channel!

Liverpool Bar can be extremely bad with lots of tide and wind against. There's probably no risk of grounding but the steepness and height of waves in relatively moderate conditions is quite bad.

Done a few times now. Last time going in well to the outside of the fairway, I was shocked when a passing inbound tanker sucked the water off the training wall and exposed it-far too close for comfort

 

[JumbleDuck]

I've heard bad things about Porthmadog bar, but I haven't yet been there. I imagine that the entrance to the Dee (the one with Kirkcudbright on it) would be a bit technical in a southerly gale.

 

[Little Dorrit]

Why limit it to the UK what about extending to France and Northern Europe? That may be more interesting for some readers to cover areas they are likely to sail? Just a suggestion.

 

[NickRobinson]

Why limit it to the UK what about extending to France and Northern Europe? That may be more interesting for some readers to cover areas they are likely to sail? Just a suggestion.

We could go World wide... (ok not a bar strictly, but allow Herzog some drift...)

 

[Little Dorrit]

We could go World wide... (ok not a bar strictly, but allow Herzog some drift...)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7OFbwrRlVk

If I have to go aground would like to do it to the same musical score.

 

[NickRobinson]

Not this Paella? (Though I get your point...)

 

[TSB240]

Caernarfon deserves its reputation. Nasty especially as you can be flushed out of a flat calm Strait and find a nasty breaking swell the remnants of the previous days storm with limited or no chance of turning round with a plan B in mind.
I fear Portmadog (shallow for much longer) and Aberystwyth which are just as untenable in a bit of a SW wind.
We seem to have more than our fair share of hazards around here and Tidal overfalls at Bardsey,South Stack Skerries Carmel and Lynas tend to concentrate the mind.
I still get a twitchy bum each time we push through by the Bridges..
But this is soon forgotten when you salute Lord Nelsons statue and remember what he said about circumnavigation of our little island.

 

[TSB240]

Why limit it to the UK what about extending to France and Northern Europe? That may be more interesting for some readers to cover areas they are likely to sail? Just a suggestion.

River Villaine gets interesting reports in swell conditions especially since it has silted up due to the Barrage at Arzal.

 

[Little Dorrit]

Not this Paella? (Though I get your point...)

There's the begining of a thread idea there me thinks.

 

[Little Dorrit]

River Villaine gets interesting reports in swell conditions especially since it has silted up due to the Barrage at Arzal.

I see your point although it looks as if it may be slightly better protected to SW gales than some of the U.K. ports

 

[PowerSlapper]

strangford loch

Do you perchance mean Strangford Lough?