Wood treatment question

[vyv_cox]

I'm refurbishing the wheelhouse sole boards of the little motorsailer we have bought. They were varnished but a previous owner has painted over them. I have stripped and sanded the paint off but the appearance is now somewhat patchy. I shall therefore stain them.

My intention was to epoxy them, but will the epoxy go over the stain OK? Otherwise it will have to be varnish. B&Q's Diamond Hard looks promising, does anyone have experience of these water-based varnishes?

Thanks for any help.

 

[RobBrown]

Vyv

When I constucted an Iroko plinth for my windlass, I put some oil based stain on before coating with clear epoxy, tho I did let the stained wood dry for a few days first , rubbed down & also covered the epoxy with x4 coats of varnish as I believe epoxy is very UV sensitive. I have rubbed down lightly and recoated once in the approx 3 years since and it still looks OK.

I have used Ronseal Diamond Hard on the saloon floorboards and this has lasted very well, tho I wasn't initially impressed with the finish until I had quite a few coats. Afraid don't know what it would be like fully exposed to the elements tho.

 

[gljnr1983]

I dont think the varnish will adhear to the stained wood if there is a high wax content in the stain.There is stuff called deks olje that gives a slight staining and goes on in 2 stages,it is very easy to use and when you get a scuff mark on the finish you just wipe more deks olje over it and i am sure it can be varnished over.Also i would not waste my time using cheap varnishes it takes to long for them to harden for a scuff and recoat, the blakes varnishes harden overnight and dont choke the sand paper when scuffing for a recoat.

 

[LittleShip]

I used Burgess Hydrosol and Burgess Clear gloss on the floor of Little Ship. It will like all varnish scratch but it is easy to repair and the topgloss dries in approx 30mins.

I did do the brightwork outside at the same time but as I'm a glutton for punishment I have since removed it and gone to varnish. That said, the grab rails are only now at the point where I am going to strip and varnish after 6 years.

Water based varnish is fine but not as good as the real thing but it is much much easier to apply.

This is a picture just after using it....

Tom

 

[sailorman]

I'm refurbishing the wheelhouse sole boards of the little motorsailer we have bought. They were varnished but a previous owner has painted over them. I have stripped and sanded the paint off but the appearance is now somewhat patchy. I shall therefore stain them.

My intention was to epoxy them, but will the epoxy go over the stain OK? Otherwise it will have to be varnish. B&Q's Diamond Hard looks promising, does anyone have experience of these water-based varnishes?

Thanks for any help.

i used the diamond stuff last time, it goes on easy & quick drying BUT it does show brush marks & not as hard wearing as conventional varnish.
would i use it again well prol yes

 

[vyv_cox]

Thanks for the advice. A couple of points:

Deks Olje - My experience of using it on previously-varnished wood was pretty poor. It failed to soak in and was flaking off in less than one season. Converesely, the new piece of teak I made up for my outboard storage bracket was treated at the same time, about 10 years ago, and is still good.

Little Ship - that's most impressive. There is little hope that I will be getting mine to look that good.

RobBrown - thanks, that's what I needed to know. I already possess the stain and the West epoxy. I will be adding some non-slip granules in strips, so I think I will just go with the epoxy as the final surface. It's all inside the wheelhouse, so UV won't be a problem.

 

[Cloven]

If its for internal use, consider using Treatex Hardwax Oil. Superb stuff. Easy to put on - quick drying.

http://www.treatex.co.uk/

Designed to be used on solid wood flooring, I have also used it on solid oak kitchen worktops worktops with superb results. It can be bought in gloss or Matt versions. Not cheap but best varnish I have come across so far. I will definitely be using it on all the internal woodwork on my boat at the start of next season.

Can't make any comment as to whether it would be suitable for external use.

Hope this helps.