Woman and two dogs missing after boat crash off Suffolk/Essex coast
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Bru
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Just saw this on Text news, here's hoping there's good news but it doesn't look good
DavidofMersea
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I would not have thought it would be too difficult to find the woman if she was wearing a lifejacket as said in the report. It is a sunny clear day and the sea is fairly flat, and not particularly cold. I don't know how well dogs can survive in the sea for a long time
dogleg
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It may sound simple but it is not as easy as it may seem
take my word for it having taken part in searches like this quite often
missing person was on deck when collision occurred, likely survival time given current sea temp might be upto 20 hours with lifejacket
sailorman
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One can only ask,WHY did it happen on a bright sunny day
Koeketiene
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Here's hoping for a happy ending to this story.
I think it's too soon (with the rescue operation still ongoing) to start apportioning blame, but how do you miss a dredger?
I think it's too soon (with the rescue operation still ongoing) to start apportioning blame, but how do you miss a dredger?
philiphurst
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Good point. Not wishing to be condemnatory but this, on the face of it, looks like sloppy seamanship.
A lesson for all of us.
Koeketiene
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Bru
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Let's wait for some facts to emerge before we start speculating (I know, I know, fat chance). It's a busy stretch of water and vessel movements can be confusing so there's all sorts of scenarios
One thing I shall be doing this very evening is saying stuff the budget constraints and ordering an AIS beacon to fit to the dear lady wife's lifejacket and our PLB will be moved from the grab bag to my lifejacket forthwith
One thing I shall be doing this very evening is saying stuff the budget constraints and ordering an AIS beacon to fit to the dear lady wife's lifejacket and our PLB will be moved from the grab bag to my lifejacket forthwith
sailorman
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Here's hoping for a happy ending to this story.
I think it's too soon (with the rescue operation still ongoing) to start apportioning blame, but how do you miss a dredger?
perhaps it was hiding behind a genoa
Koeketiene
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perhaps it was hiding behind a genoa
FFS - the thing was 2NM away. Hardly a 'near miss'
:encouragement:
Transcur
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Look at the AIS path of the dredger before 1:30. Interesting.
sailorman
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The Sea King just went down the Orwell a few mins ago at about 21.45
sailorman
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have you got a screen shot of it
Bru
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Which dredger?
Javelin
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Shoreway, a 98m by 22m dredger.
This is the ais track at about the time of the incident.
This is the ais track at about the time of the incident.
SteveSarabande
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That track doesn't look right. How many minutes apart are each of the boat symbols? It looks like hit the yacht and continued on in a straight line
Bru
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I've grabbed the positions to plot up - immediate point is that I think you're an hour out - the reports state the collision occured around 1:30pm BST - the Marinetraffic positions are UTC and therefore the collision occured on or about the point where the dredger, having followed a straight(ish) course out of Harwich suddendly turns approx 120deg to starboard
More in a bit, NOT out of morbid curiosity but in the hope that understanding what has happened will help me, and others, avoid it happening again
I note also from the AIS that the Walton and Harwich lifeboats have returned to station however the Aldeburgh lifeboat is now off Felixstowe having arrived on scene about an hour ago
All hope is not lost but it really isn't looking too promising
More in a bit, NOT out of morbid curiosity but in the hope that understanding what has happened will help me, and others, avoid it happening again
I note also from the AIS that the Walton and Harwich lifeboats have returned to station however the Aldeburgh lifeboat is now off Felixstowe having arrived on scene about an hour ago
All hope is not lost but it really isn't looking too promising
Javelin
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yes quite correct, my mistake.
Tomahawk
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it is difficult to interpret from thwt close up of the ships track. It looks as the Shoreway was on passage to the dump ground. It suddenly turned Port (north) then started doing a lot of manourvers. It is diffucult to work out very much as the press release has not mentioned the time of the collision.
The lifeboat has just got back into port. 21:15 ish
The lifeboat has just got back into port. 21:15 ish