Wireless Remote for older B and G Auto Pilot Displays with ACP1

[TSB240]

I miss having a wireless remote for my B&G Network AP. I found it one of the most useful tools when short or single handed especially when dodging lobster pots on my last boat.

I am exploring using a six channel wireless relay in conjunction with our old hat equipment which shows no signs of unreliability and has oroven itself capable of handling really bad quartering seas with no problems.

B and G offered a wired remote that was directly connected to the ACP1 course computer.
This had 6 momentary pb's and an led. The coloured wire tails are directly connected to the coloured ACP1 terminals.
There are no details on line for this remote wiring.

I have found by connecting a jumper from the black terminal in the ACP1 and observing rudder movements.
BLACK Common return
BLUE -10 TURN
YELLOW +10 TURN
GREEN -1 TURN
VIOLET +1TURN
BROWN AP ON
WHITE AP OFF
RED PROBABLY SIGNAL TO LED on wired remote for autopilot on?
SCREEN Screen on wired remote.

I would appreciate should anyone have an old wired remote if they could confirm any of the above?

I have ordered a 6 channel rf relay with two remotes for £40.00
I really don't fancy buying a second hand wired remote for over ten times more!

Happy to share the end result with any other users with a perfectly good older B and G network AP using an ACP1 course computer.

The only thing I don't like about this old system is it uses a speed signal from a B & G paddle wheel log in order to operate. It receives this signal via the proprietary B&G network back bone that I suspect is their own weird version of nmea.

I think they may have offered a converter that allowed for any nmea speed transducer to be fitted?

Anybody come up with a way of feeding an alternative GPS speed signal for the inevitable day when the log gets stuck or fails?

Steve.

 

[samteq]

I know an old post but did you get this working? I have got the same issue of wanting a remote for the autopilot and the hard wired seem silly money?

 

[TSB240]

Yes fully worked OK. I used something like this in a water proof enclosure.
Amazon.co.uk.

Got over my fear of unplugging and cleaning log but the b and g acp100 works better with the log speed working rather than a fixed input.

Pm me if you need any further info but I can confirm the cable colours are correct.
You will just need a fused 12v feed for the relay. It needs switching to momentary latching.. it switches the common 0v to each input not the 12v.

 

[samteq]

Yes fully worked OK. I used something like this in a water proof enclosure.
Amazon.co.uk.

Got over my fear of unplugging and cleaning log but the b and g acp100 works better with the log speed working rather than a fixed input.

Pm me if you need any further info but I can confirm the cable colours are correct.
You will just need a fused 12v feed for the relay. It needs switching to momentary latching.. it switches the common 0v to each input not the 12v.

I'll give this a shot, done similar thing with diesel heater.. Thank you!

 

[gregcope]

I miss having a wireless remote for my B&G Network AP. I found it one of the most useful tools when short or single handed especially when dodging lobster pots on my last boat.

I am exploring using a six channel wireless relay in conjunction with our old hat equipment which shows no signs of unreliability and has oroven itself capable of handling really bad quartering seas with no problems.

B and G offered a wired remote that was directly connected to the ACP1 course computer.
This had 6 momentary pb's and an led. The coloured wire tails are directly connected to the coloured ACP1 terminals.
There are no details on line for this remote wiring.

I have found by connecting a jumper from the black terminal in the ACP1 and observing rudder movements.
BLACK Common return
BLUE -10 TURN
YELLOW +10 TURN
GREEN -1 TURN
VIOLET +1TURN
BROWN AP ON
WHITE AP OFF
RED PROBABLY SIGNAL TO LED on wired remote for autopilot on?
SCREEN Screen on wired remote.

I would appreciate should anyone have an old wired remote if they could confirm any of the above?

I have ordered a 6 channel rf relay with two remotes for £40.00
I really don't fancy buying a second hand wired remote for over ten times more!

Happy to share the end result with any other users with a perfectly good older B and G network AP using an ACP1 course computer.

The only thing I don't like about this old system is it uses a speed signal from a B & G paddle wheel log in order to operate. It receives this signal via the proprietary B&G network back bone that I suspect is their own weird version of nmea.

I think they may have offered a converter that allowed for any nmea speed transducer to be fitted?

Anybody come up with a way of feeding an alternative GPS speed signal for the inevitable day when the log gets stuck or fails?

Steve.

Can you send a picture of which wires/connectors you were jumping?

 

[TSB240]

Can you send a picture of which wires/connectors you were jumping?

Yes but you might have to wait a bit as I am away from boat for a while.

 

[TSB240]

Can you send a picture of which wires/connectors you were jumping?

This is a picture of the inside of the acp 100 circuit. The terminals and colours I refer to in the OP are for a standard hard wired remote controller.
THE Seven CONNECTIONS I used were from the top black is the common taken to each of the wireless remote relays. (0v switching)
The next 6 are as in the original post text and provide stand by, on, +1degree, -1degree, +10 degree, -10degree commands.
Don't use the red connection as that is for an led to show autopilot is on as used on the b and g wired remote. You don't need it.

I used a lightweight screened control cable for my connections and mounted the wireless relay in a box under the steering wheel binnacle. Screen isn't absolutely necessary but if you use it connect the screen to terminal marked screen you could use two more cores for power to supply the relay. These can come off the red and black terminals lower down where it says net but check these with a meter first for +12V and 0V.

 

[samteq]

I miss having a wireless remote for my B&G Network AP. I found it one of the most useful tools when short or single handed especially when dodging lobster pots on my last boat.

I am exploring using a six channel wireless relay in conjunction with our old hat equipment which shows no signs of unreliability and has oroven itself capable of handling really bad quartering seas with no problems.

B and G offered a wired remote that was directly connected to the ACP1 course computer.
This had 6 momentary pb's and an led. The coloured wire tails are directly connected to the coloured ACP1 terminals.
There are no details on line for this remote wiring.

I have found by connecting a jumper from the black terminal in the ACP1 and observing rudder movements.
BLACK Common return
BLUE -10 TURN
YELLOW +10 TURN
GREEN -1 TURN
VIOLET +1TURN
BROWN AP ON
WHITE AP OFF
RED PROBABLY SIGNAL TO LED on wired remote for autopilot on?
SCREEN Screen on wired remote.

I would appreciate should anyone have an old wired remote if they could confirm any of the above?

I have ordered a 6 channel rf relay with two remotes for £40.00
I really don't fancy buying a second hand wired remote for over ten times more!

Happy to share the end result with any other users with a perfectly good older B and G network AP using an ACP1 course computer.

The only thing I don't like about this old system is it uses a speed signal from a B & G paddle wheel log in order to operate. It receives this signal via the proprietary B&G network back bone that I suspect is their own weird version of nmea.

I think they may have offered a converter that allowed for any nmea speed transducer to be fitted?

Anybody come up with a way of feeding an alternative GPS speed signal for the inevitable day when the log gets stuck or fails?

Steve.

Successfully did this today, really appreciate your post and info, I used the Amazon 6ch wireless remote which works a treat, might look at re packaging the remote to be more marine/robust..