Winter Projects

[jimi]

Things I'm thinking about doing soon are:

1) Get removeable forestay fitted. Do you think I could move the current forestay forward on the stem head fitting ot would I be better getting a U bolt fitting on the foredeck. Presumably my baby stay is no use for a storm jib?

2) A third reefing point on the main. I won't keep the rope in it but use the first reefing line in it when conditions warrant it.

3) Heating.

Any advice appreciated .. what projects are you considering?


Jim

 

[rogerroger]

I'm also going to put a third reef in - but I reckon if conditions warrant it the last thing I want to be doing is farting around on the end of a swinging boom unthreading reef one and threading it in reef 3 !



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[jimi]

Same thought had crossed my mind, but I don't really want several miles of reefing line dangling about when in normal use, I was considering using two screw gate karabiners to take the first reefing lines to the relevant holes thus saving any untying and rethreading. Any thoughts on that?

Jim

 

[Guest]

I wish I could complete last and the preceeding winters projects ... before even starting on this years !!!!!

Why is it we all start with grand lists and plans - then fail to meet 1/2 !!!!!

 

[JeremyF]

Autohelm - its going in on Friday I hope, so there will be some time to play before she comes out the water.

Heating - perhaps. See how the money goes. I suspect it might be a 2003/04 project

3rd reef - yes, if I can figure what to do with the string. I think the boom is configured for a 3rd Single line reef, but there's already enough friction, even if you pull out the string before raising the main. I dont think there is a zipped hole for the end of the line to be attached to the boom. I think I might get the sail done, and figure out what to do about the string later - perhaps I might have two separate lines for each end. Hmmm

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[Guest]

As part of your project rig single line reefing aft. Whoever you use to alter your sails will tell you how and what is required. It is not difficult.

Pete

 

[Guest]

3rd reef ....

When I get reef 2 .... I start looking at the diesel and a small steadying headsail ..... bugger standing on the coachroof threading lines !!!!!

 

[jimi]

I presume you mean a single line for each reef? If so I've already got that, what I meant was rather than having the third reefing line pernamently rigged. When required the 2nd reef would already be in, I'd slacken the first reefing line, put a Krab on bight of line at the mast and clip it into the reeefing point on the luff and similarly on the leech. Only problem I see is that the point on the boom to which the first reef is attached may be a little far back.

Jim

 

[Guest]

No there is a way of one line for all three reefs that can be lead back to the cockpit with one line. Over the weekend I will have a chat to someone who did a couple of years back on a Moody 336.

Pete

 

[salamicollie]

Emergency Forestay - make sure you have a bloody big backing plate and make sure you transfer the load to the hull or structural bulkhead - e.g. with a rigging screw and wire or rod - It is very easy to over tension the stay and bow the deck! partic if use a highfield lever (less likely with one of the Wichard wheel tensioners)

Probably better to bring the forestay back from the bow fitting as this moves the centre of effort for the storm jib aft - perhaps behind the anchor locker?

 

[jimi]

It would be really interesting to see how that was done! I've never heard of that on a slab reefed main.

Jim

 

[Miker]

I\'m interested as well

I've been juggling with two reefing lines between three reefing points. I havn't found ot too difficult to transfer the first reefing line to the third when coming down to the second reefing point. I've never had to use the third reef - I'm a fair weather sailor - and am wondering whether I ought to have another fastening point for the third reef further forward on the boom.
I did read somewhere of putting a smaller guiding line through the third reefing point to assist in transferring the reefing line but it sounded a bit messy.

 

[tome]

Re: I\'m interested as well

I also have a 3rd deep reef which I'd like to use. The reefing line is already fitted to the boom, but as others have observed there's a lot of friction when hoisting if all 3 are rigged so it's generally not attached to the sail.

I don't fancy the idea of standing on the coachroof in a blow trying to fit the 3rd reef on a swinging boom, so I was planning to fit a light messenger which I could use to feed the deep reefing line when required, probably once the 2nd reef goes in. I expect that on boats with 2 lines the first reef could also be transferred in this way provided the boom attachment isn't too far aft.

I haven't tried it yet, but will experiment next time I'm out.

 

[Gunfleet]

Re: I\'m interested as well

If there's a lot of friction when hoisting you might look at the size of your reefing lines. I had this trouble and solved it by going down a size in line. Obviously whatever you choose has to be man enogh for the job.

 

[30boat]

Sound advice.I was going to say more or less the same.

 

[tome]

Re: I\'m interested as well

You might well be right John - they are 14mm braided and definitely heavier than needed. I suspect that 12 (or even 10)mm would be adequate and will try this first. I haven't changed them yet as the reefing winch is an early Lewmar ST which doesn't adjust to different rope sizes as the later Wavespring models do.

 

[Roberto]

Re: I\'m interested as well

I have a very thin messenger loop which runs between the second ant third reef "holes" on the leech, when you want to put the third reef you usually already have the second one on, so simply tie the reefing line to the messenger and pull it so the line goes through the third reef clew up above and comes back to be attached to the boom.

 

[tony_brighton]

Depens on your sailing but I certainly recommend heating - really extended our sailing season this year.

 

[jimi]

I'm placing the order for an Eberspacher this afternoon. I made do with a fan heater last year when hooked up to shore power & a gas catalytic heater I used to use in our trailer tent when not, but I don't really like the idea of the gas thingy in the boat. Wife likes the idea of sailing along in the warmth whilst I stand helming upstairs in the hail and snow!

Jim

 

[jimi]

I have got a babystay, but I presume that hanking the storm jib onto that would be a no no?

Jim