Wierd Halyard noise.

Norman_E

Well-known member
Joined
15 Mar 2005
Messages
24,740
Location
East Sussex.
Visit site
I am very annoyed by any frapping halyard and tie off everything that might possibly cause a problem every time I come into dock. I have however had a halyard noise that I simply could not stop after I removed all the actual halyards and replaced them with mouseing lines. Inside the boat I could hear an almost constant frapping on a windy night. Outside I could not find any line hitting on anything, but with my ear close to the mast it was obvious that at least one mouseing line was frapping inside the mast.

I tried slackening them, I tried loosening them, but nothing stopped it. Eventually I stuck gaffer tape over all of the halyard entry holes that I could reach to try and stop the wind blowing inside the mast. It was not a total cure as there are holes I could not reach, but made it better.
 

GrahamD

Active member
Joined
28 Jul 2007
Messages
524
Location
Poole
Visit site
This may not be a halliard, but may be an electrical cable run down inside the mast, - VHF, wind instruments or nav lights. My boat has the same problem , and I'm looking for a solution
 

Norman_E

Well-known member
Joined
15 Mar 2005
Messages
24,740
Location
East Sussex.
Visit site
I did wonder about the cables but when the mast was down I looked inside it from the ends and all the cables appeared to be in a conduit. Since this noise only happens with the halyards removed my conclusion was that wind was blowing in through the holes they had occupied, hence my attempt to stop them up with gaffer tape. I could reach two holes, just, and two more by standing on a step stool, but others are out or reach.
 

Clyde_Wanderer

New member
Joined
15 Jun 2006
Messages
2,829
Location
Glasgow
Visit site
This may not be a halliard, but may be an electrical cable run down inside the mast, - VHF, wind instruments or nav lights. My boat has the same problem , and I'm looking for a solution

I fitted cable ties 3 at 120degree phase along the cables inside the mast and they still rattle.
I dont think there is any way to stop it completly.
I now use ear plugs!
C_W
 

bikedaft

Well-known member
Joined
16 Dec 2008
Messages
3,803
Location
tayvallich
Visit site
the inside of our mast is lined with foam. would be hard to "retrofit" tho. about 1cm thickness. a bit raggedy at lower end after 41 years, but otherwise fine.

(dad's boat, electrical cable inside mast does exactly as you describe)

run a conduit down mast whne she's next out water?
 

DJE

Well-known member
Joined
21 Jun 2004
Messages
7,666
Location
Fareham
www.casl.uk.com
Tight flag halyards (to the spreaders) sometimes cause a strange singing noise in a breeze. It took me ages to find where it was coming from.
 

Magaz97

New member
Joined
26 Jun 2009
Messages
469
Visit site
I have the same problem, my coaxial cable rattles and slaps through the night. Can anyone suggest an in-situ remedy, or is it a mast down job?

Thanks
 

V1701

Well-known member
Joined
1 Oct 2009
Messages
4,626
Location
South Coast UK
Visit site
Yes I have the same with coax and electrical cables rattling around inside the mast. It's a nightmare at anchor (earplugs here again but everybody else gets it as well) but thankfully don't get it in the marina (I live on the boat). I've heard three remedies - using conduit, using cable ties and another method of using a long fishing wire or similar with collars attached at intervals and pulled down over the offending wires/cables. If the top of the mast comes off and there's scope at the base then probably any of these could conceivably be done with the mast in place but (obviously) a damned sight easier with it on the ground. Why people don't do it properly first time around I don't really know. I found it doubly annoying as I bought boat with mast down and only realised when I stepped aboard for the first time after mast had been put back on...
 
Last edited:

Searush

New member
Joined
14 Oct 2006
Messages
26,779
Location
- up to my neck in it.
back2bikes.org.uk
You could try pumping builder's foam thro a tube about 1/3 the way up the mast & the same 1/3 down by using a spray can with a poly tube over the end to get it far enough along the mast.

It may or may not work, but I'll bet it stops you putting any more wires/ cables down the mast! :D It should however change the "ring" of the mast & deaden the sound even if it doesn't stop it happening.
 

Magaz97

New member
Joined
26 Jun 2009
Messages
469
Visit site
It may or may not work, but I'll bet it stops you putting any more wires/ cables down the mast! :D It should however change the "ring" of the mast & deaden the sound even if it doesn't stop it happening.

Absolutely! Lesson learned. :)
 

Vara

Active member
Joined
20 Feb 2004
Messages
7,015
Location
Canterbury/Dover
Visit site
Mystery noises from rigging, all of the suggestions above plus;

I had a periodic boom boom noise from the rigging, tightened and frapped everything I could see, still going on. Eventually traced to forum burgee which was just the right length to pluck the shroud, half masted it, problem solved.
 

GlennG

Active member
Joined
19 May 2005
Messages
319
Visit site
Its possible to drill a hole in the mast and push through a bent 'U' clip through to clip the wire to the side of the mast. Fiddly - use some stiff wire to fish for the wire. I have this on my mast.
 

NormanS

Well-known member
Joined
10 Nov 2008
Messages
9,718
Visit site
I am very annoyed by any frapping halyard .

I may be wrong here, (yes it has happened), but is "frapping" not one of the methods used to stop halliards etc from banging against the mast? I normally rig "preventers", but some use a frapping line, i.e. a line wrapped round others.

I do take your point - it is f-----g annoying.
 

Simondjuk

Active member
Joined
29 Aug 2007
Messages
2,039
Location
World region
Visit site
There's a very simple fix which sometimes works. Take your spinnaker halyard to somewhere where it can't slap against anything, such as the pulpit or bow fitting, and leave just a little slack in it. The slack and soft run of line inside the mast is sometimes enough to break or at least damp the movement of the cables as they strike it. If all the halyards are all bar taught up the inside of the mast, the cables will just bounce of them unchecked and strike the inside of the mast more forcefully. The cables in my mast only slap very occassionally, but when they do the above often silences them. A little experimentation with the halyard tension may be required to get the desired effect.
 

st599

Well-known member
Joined
9 Jan 2006
Messages
7,530
Visit site
I may be wrong here, (yes it has happened), but is "frapping" not one of the methods used to stop halliards etc from banging against the mast? I normally rig "preventers", but some use a frapping line, i.e. a line wrapped round others.

I do take your point - it is f-----g annoying.

Frapping is a method of tightening knots or lashings, hence frapping mallet.
 
Top