Whoops! Groupama has fallen over...
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Pads38
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Good news that they are all safe and sound.
From their website it looks like they turned NE 12 hours before capsizing so they were perhaps aware that something was wrong. (Float starting to split?)
http://www.cammas-groupama.com/fr/index.jsp
From their website it looks like they turned NE 12 hours before capsizing so they were perhaps aware that something was wrong. (Float starting to split?)
http://www.cammas-groupama.com/fr/index.jsp
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Perry
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Good news that they are all safe and sound.
From their website it looks like they turned NE 12 hours before capsizing so they were perhaps aware that something was wrong. (Float starting to split?)
http://www.cammas-groupama.com/fr/index.jsp
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I checked their postion last night before the capsize and they where doing 26knots up the coast of New Zealand before turning East so I don't think there was a problem before the float broke up. Bit of a shame as thet where doing so well, Ushant to Tazmaina in under 21 days and nearly a day quicker than the record
Good news that they are all safe and sound.
From their website it looks like they turned NE 12 hours before capsizing so they were perhaps aware that something was wrong. (Float starting to split?)
http://www.cammas-groupama.com/fr/index.jsp
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I checked their postion last night before the capsize and they where doing 26knots up the coast of New Zealand before turning East so I don't think there was a problem before the float broke up. Bit of a shame as thet where doing so well, Ushant to Tazmaina in under 21 days and nearly a day quicker than the record
sighmoon
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The YM report said it was the windward float that split. Is that a typo?
Pads38
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Good news that they are all safe and sound.
From their website it looks like they turned NE 12 hours before capsizing so they were perhaps aware that something was wrong. (Float starting to split?)
http://www.cammas-groupama.com/fr/index.jsp
I checked their postion last night before the capsize and they where doing 26knots up the coast of New Zealand before turning East so I don't think there was a problem before the float broke up. Bit of a shame as thet where doing so well, Ushant to Tazmaina in under 21 days and nearly a day quicker than the record
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At 1000UTC yesterday they turned NE to go up the NZ coast - which I can't make sense of in a record attempt unless they were looking to get closer to land before the boat broke.
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Good news that they are all safe and sound.
From their website it looks like they turned NE 12 hours before capsizing so they were perhaps aware that something was wrong. (Float starting to split?)
http://www.cammas-groupama.com/fr/index.jsp
I checked their postion last night before the capsize and they where doing 26knots up the coast of New Zealand before turning East so I don't think there was a problem before the float broke up. Bit of a shame as thet where doing so well, Ushant to Tazmaina in under 21 days and nearly a day quicker than the record
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At 1000UTC yesterday they turned NE to go up the NZ coast - which I can't make sense of in a record attempt unless they were looking to get closer to land before the boat broke.
geoid96
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At 1000UTC yesterday they turned NE to go up the NZ coast - which I can't make sense of in a record attempt unless they were looking to get closer to land before the boat broke.
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It makes perfect sense if you look at the weather. There was a large depression to the SE of them with 50 knot+ winds and they were skirting around to the North of it.
When the port (leeward) float broke they had already gybed onto starboard and were heading East away from NZ.
At 1000UTC yesterday they turned NE to go up the NZ coast - which I can't make sense of in a record attempt unless they were looking to get closer to land before the boat broke.
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It makes perfect sense if you look at the weather. There was a large depression to the SE of them with 50 knot+ winds and they were skirting around to the North of it.
When the port (leeward) float broke they had already gybed onto starboard and were heading East away from NZ.
geoid96
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Pads38
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It makes perfect sense if you look at the weather. There was a large depression to the SE of them with 50 knot+ winds and they were skirting around to the North of it.
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Thanks for that - it does become clearer with that met.
It makes perfect sense if you look at the weather. There was a large depression to the SE of them with 50 knot+ winds and they were skirting around to the North of it.
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Thanks for that - it does become clearer with that met.
Cornishman
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You had me worried there for a moment until I remembered that my car is no longer insured with them!
Perry
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2008/02/18 - 18h39
Capsize off New Zealand
Jules Verne Trophy
Whilst sailing off New Zealand, Groupama 3 capsized following the breakage of her port float. The ten men were very quickly airlifted via helicopter by the New Zealand rescue services and taken to Dunedin (South Island). They will do everything they can to salvage the trimaran once the conditions on zone have improved.
At 2343 UT on Sunday night, the giant trimaran turned over 80 miles to the East of the New Zealand town of Dunedin (South Island), the crew having gybed two hours earlier in a thirty knot SW'ly breeze on big seas. Groupama 3 had around a day's lead over the round the world reference time set by Orange II and had begun its entry into the Pacific Ocean over the weekend... The crew was unable to do anything to prevent their capsize and was very rapidly picked up by the New Zealand rescue services, which rushed three helicopters onto the zone. Franck Cammas looks back at how the accident occurred.
"This Monday morning (late Sunday night UT), we gybed very close to the New Zealand coast by adopting a tack, which was designed to distance us from the worst of the low that was ahead of us. We set off on starboard tack, due East with 25-30 knots of wind: we were making good speed at over thirty knots on seas, which had calmed down. At the helm Franck Proffit was on watch with Fred Le Peutrec and Jan Dekker. The leeward float broke just aft of the forward beam. There was a very quick chain reaction and within ten seconds the float had taken the beam with it and that too broke.
I was on rest watch up forward, when I heard the shouts on deck: "Gybe!" and I felt the boat heel over... I had reached the hood when everyone starting hurrying to come inside: we capsized in the space of ten seconds. It was broad daylight, which enabled us to see what had happened.
There was nothing left to leeward and Franck immediately tried to gybe, but the manoeuvre became impossible as the float instantly filled with water: without any support downwind, Groupama 3 capsized relatively slowly onto the side with the flooded, broken float to port. The crew who were on deck, since the standby watch immediately went up top to make an emergency gybe, all had time to go below, Franck last. It was necessary for the whole crew to be inside the boat as it turned over so as to limit the risk...
We immediately saw the damage and straightaway alerted our team on shore of the accident and began to prepare for the repatriation over the coming days. The New Zealand rescue services, alerted by our distress beacon being set off, were on the scene four hours later: we saw three helicopters, which did a fantastic job airlifting us off. Everything was performed in an orderly fashion and at a quick pace since each helicopter was able to take four people. The rescue was pretty tough with six metre waves. The helicopter couldn't take us whilst we were on the boat so we had to jump into the water to track down the diver as the trimaran was drifting at three knots. Our rescuers were very fast as we were all onboard helicopters within an hour."
2008/02/18 - 18h39
Capsize off New Zealand
Jules Verne Trophy
Whilst sailing off New Zealand, Groupama 3 capsized following the breakage of her port float. The ten men were very quickly airlifted via helicopter by the New Zealand rescue services and taken to Dunedin (South Island). They will do everything they can to salvage the trimaran once the conditions on zone have improved.
At 2343 UT on Sunday night, the giant trimaran turned over 80 miles to the East of the New Zealand town of Dunedin (South Island), the crew having gybed two hours earlier in a thirty knot SW'ly breeze on big seas. Groupama 3 had around a day's lead over the round the world reference time set by Orange II and had begun its entry into the Pacific Ocean over the weekend... The crew was unable to do anything to prevent their capsize and was very rapidly picked up by the New Zealand rescue services, which rushed three helicopters onto the zone. Franck Cammas looks back at how the accident occurred.
"This Monday morning (late Sunday night UT), we gybed very close to the New Zealand coast by adopting a tack, which was designed to distance us from the worst of the low that was ahead of us. We set off on starboard tack, due East with 25-30 knots of wind: we were making good speed at over thirty knots on seas, which had calmed down. At the helm Franck Proffit was on watch with Fred Le Peutrec and Jan Dekker. The leeward float broke just aft of the forward beam. There was a very quick chain reaction and within ten seconds the float had taken the beam with it and that too broke.
I was on rest watch up forward, when I heard the shouts on deck: "Gybe!" and I felt the boat heel over... I had reached the hood when everyone starting hurrying to come inside: we capsized in the space of ten seconds. It was broad daylight, which enabled us to see what had happened.
There was nothing left to leeward and Franck immediately tried to gybe, but the manoeuvre became impossible as the float instantly filled with water: without any support downwind, Groupama 3 capsized relatively slowly onto the side with the flooded, broken float to port. The crew who were on deck, since the standby watch immediately went up top to make an emergency gybe, all had time to go below, Franck last. It was necessary for the whole crew to be inside the boat as it turned over so as to limit the risk...
We immediately saw the damage and straightaway alerted our team on shore of the accident and began to prepare for the repatriation over the coming days. The New Zealand rescue services, alerted by our distress beacon being set off, were on the scene four hours later: we saw three helicopters, which did a fantastic job airlifting us off. Everything was performed in an orderly fashion and at a quick pace since each helicopter was able to take four people. The rescue was pretty tough with six metre waves. The helicopter couldn't take us whilst we were on the boat so we had to jump into the water to track down the diver as the trimaran was drifting at three knots. Our rescuers were very fast as we were all onboard helicopters within an hour."
dunedin
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The YM report said it was the windward float that split. Is that a typo?
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Sounds like it was the hull to leeward that broke. But apparently the float at most risk of damage in large waves in modern tris is in fact the windward one, not the leeward one, as it takes hits from the waves without the weight of water behind to protect it. Hence the suggestion is that unbeknown to the crew, the hull may have been damaged in the rough weather before they gybed.
The YM report said it was the windward float that split. Is that a typo?
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Sounds like it was the hull to leeward that broke. But apparently the float at most risk of damage in large waves in modern tris is in fact the windward one, not the leeward one, as it takes hits from the waves without the weight of water behind to protect it. Hence the suggestion is that unbeknown to the crew, the hull may have been damaged in the rough weather before they gybed.
lyc
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Photos of the capsized Groupama 3 and Rescue HERE
Perry
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http://www.cammas-groupama.com/en/index.jsp
Good footage of the rescue and savage prep on their site now
Good footage of the rescue and savage prep on their site now
