Who Pays Craneage ?

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Portland Billy

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I am considering a new (to me) boat. She is currently on hard standing, and has been surveyed. I now wish to do an engine and systems test, before closing the deal.
So who should pay for the craneage, myself or the broker/vendor? - she requires a few bits and pieces doing which will mean she will return to the hard standing after the tests - assuming they are successful - which leads me to think the craneage costs should be shared if the deal goes through, and down to the broker/vendor if it doesn't. As it stands I am being charged for the lot.
 
Basically if you want it in the water for your own reasons ...you pay both for lift both in and lift out .
You may get a special rate from marina to help the sale along a bit.
Can you imagine if the boat has 20 prospective buyers during the season all expecting the vendor to cough up,lets say @ £150.00 a pop.
Not going to happen !
 
Always a bit dodgy this, on a previous purchase we paid for the lift into the water for sea trials and the lift out onto the lorry once the deal was done, on our current purchase the boat needed to be checked and serviced prior to sea trial so the vendor has paid for the lift in, then we did the sea trial, some more bits need working on so the vendor has paid for lift out, we will only be paying for lift from hardstand onto the lorry. I sort of think technically it is for the purchaser to sort out the lifts in normal circumstances , as a way of showing interest and good faith. But of course, both ,or all if a broker is involved, parties are interested in pushing any sale forwards so it can be discussed and maybe come to some agreement if you can negotiate it on those sort of costs.
 
Whilst it may be "the practice of the trade" that a potential purchaser pays crane age in and out for survey/trial, there is no law that says this must be so. Negotiate with the parties who have an interest in the sale - usually the seller, the broker and the potential purchaser. A deal will only proceed if all are satisfied.. As the potential purchaser you hold the cards and have to decide how much you want the boat and how much you are prepared to risk on the process.
 
Portland Billy said:
I am considering a new (to me) boat. She is currently on hard standing, and has been surveyed. I now wish to do an engine and systems test, before closing the deal.
So who should pay for the craneage, myself or the broker/vendor? - she requires a few bits and pieces doing which will mean she will return to the hard standing after the tests - assuming they are successful - which leads me to think the craneage costs should be shared if the deal goes through, and down to the broker/vendor if it doesn't. As it stands I am being charged for the lot.
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It's you who wants the boat in the water so it is you that is going to be expected to pay. I've never heard of a broker paying any of the costs.
 
Think this would be more of non issue if some Marinas weren't so greedy, I've been quoted between £18 and £55 per metre on the Thames for lift out and back in, you can guess where my money went. I know cranes cost money but an idle crane costs more., the most expensive a few years ago was the EA facilty at T&K!
 
Chris_d said:
Think this would be more of non issue if some Marinas weren't so greedy, I've been quoted between £18 and £55 per metre on the Thames for lift out and back in, you can guess where my money went. I know cranes cost money but an idle crane costs more., the most expensive a few years ago was the EA facilty at T&K!
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So do tell where the £18 per metre was!!
 
As already said it's the buyers responsibility to pay for the lift in and back out, even if the deal does not go through it will still be the buyers cost.
 
If you were lifting OUT and then IN for a pre-purchase survey the buyer would normally be expected to pay.
I can't see that it would be any different for a lift IN and then OUT.
 
Portland Billy said:
A compromise has been reached - I pay for lift in and out for tests. Then if the deal goes through they will pay for lift onto truck.
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Who said there was no room for negotiation ? We live in changing and difficult times. WHat have been considered standard practices in the past may well ned to be reconsidered.

Well done.
 
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