Who controls communication

[Solitaire]

Ok, here's a question for you all. When you call another ship on channel 16 to have a conversation, which party determiines the working channel?

 

[Roy]

Well I am one of two so far and the other guy is wrong!

 

[hlb]

From years ago vidio. Anyone.

From the course I was on the other week. The called station.

But he also said this was daft because the calling station could check for a free chanel first, thus saving the problem of twoing and frowing to find an empty chanel.

Dont think it matters one little bit really.

 

[Solitaire]

First time I've used this polling thingy - made a bit of a balls up of it - but at least it's working, if not quite the right way! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

 

[gcwhite]

The rules are that if you are calling another boat then the calling station controls. If you are calling a land based station then the land based station controls such as the coast guard.

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[H__Spirits]

Believe the answer is either as you have said you are calling another vessel. If you were calling the coast guard it would be normal to let them decide on the working channel but the fact is if you hail someone and wait for them to nominate they have to do it on Ch16 which increases congestion

 

[SteveE]

On my Day skipper course they stated it is the called station that determines the channel to carry on the conversation.

 

[phanakapan]

Just been reading up on this earlier today- as caller you can suggest a channel 'Freind, Freind, this is Me, Me, channel 6 or 8 over' but it is the called station who decides.

 

[ShipsWoofy]

Bridge to bridge it is the calling station, otherwise the designers of DSC have made a whopping great mistake.

 

[SteveE]

Now that makes some sense, we did have a debate about it on the course, but RYA man was firm on the protocol?

 

[phanakapan]

Quote from the VHF GMDSS RYA handbook- 'Routine calls- Call using Address MMSI-the DSC acknowledgement from the station called indicates a suitable channel for subsequent voice communication to which the receiving set automatically tunes'

Unless my book is out of date!

 

[Oldhand]

I can see this poll being a very good argument for everyone to go DSC which will get all the obviously confused people off channel 16 and DSC makes the caller choose the working channel so there is no argument. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[yotphil1]

according to the rya it's the recieving station. but with dsc the caller can retune your radio to the frequiency he wants, provided you have each others mmsi number, as he calls you up. you choose!

 

[Mike_Martin]

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Quote from the VHF GMDSS RYA handbook- 'Routine calls- Call using Address MMSI-the DSC acknowledgement from the station called indicates a suitable channel for subsequent voice communication to which the receiving set automatically tunes'

Unless my book is out of date!

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No you're not out of date but that is ship-to-shore using DSC /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

However, the question could be described as out of date but if memory serves under the old system the receiving station did reply with the "working channel" to be used

Mike

 

[Solitaire]

Confusion reigns! This all very interesting /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I'll let it run a bit longer!

 

[jhr]

OK. I hope this is right, because it's what I was told when I did the DSC course a few weeks ago.

The Station called is the one in control. s/he nominates a channel to be used for working and should be the station to terminate the conversation.

Well; that's what the instructor said, anyway! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

 

[Its_Only_Money]

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Bridge to bridge it is the calling station, otherwise the designers of DSC have made a whopping great mistake.

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I pray to differ - that would be "another whopping great mistake"

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What are the chances, when DSC becomes more poplier than what it is now, of having a DSC-controlled crash/talkover where two conversations are struck up simultaneously both nominating the same working channel, with of course all four parties believing they are in the right.....after all if people don't listen before xmitting on 16 now, why would they in a DSC-initiated call??? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[Its_Only_Money]

Nice poll David, only a marketeer could come up with a poll where the result is 100% to both sides! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

 

[Solitaire]

/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I told you once B4 that I could make you belive anything! Being a (ex)marketer I'll can make you belive that 2+2 don't = 4! But then on the other hand I'll put it down to my lack of knowing how the poll system worked.!
/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Perhaps I should RTFM in more detail. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[mjf]

Absolutly - after first checking that the working channel is free beforehand.