Who are posher - Raggies or Mobos?

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Not a troll thread, but a bit of research. Following a question from a student on the board some while ago about UK boating participation levels when I couldn't find a clear answer, I've been building up quite a bit of data from official sources - all very interesting.

Comparing Raggies and Mobos I've included figures for yacht racing and yacht cruising, power boating, general motor boating and boat angling. Excuded are dinghy racing and sailing, PWCs, jetskis, windsurfing, waterskiing etc. Figures are for 'participants' not owners - i.e. includes crew, guests, commercial charters etc. 'Events' are single occassions with a start and finish but of indeterminate length - could be a day out or a five day passage. Figures are for both inland and coastal / offshore.

1. Participation

Raggies: 441k participants, 2.05m annual events
Mobos: 1.29m participants, 7.58m events

2. Socio-economic participation

Raggies: Class AB 47%, C1 29%, C2DE 12%
All Mobos: Class AB 25%, C1 36%, C2DE 39%
Mobos excluding Angling: Class AB 44%, C1 35%, C2DE 21%

3. Mobo events

Breakdown of total number of Mobo events:
Power boating: 21%
General motor boating: 18%
Angling: 61%

Clearly, although not widely represented on these forums cos they're on the fishy forums instead I guess, boat anglers are a very important user group - and a group with a large cohort from the lower socio-economic scale on whom any ending of the red diesel exemption will impact adversely.

Anyone (non-commercially) interested in sources etc PM me.
 
Are you sure about that conclusion?
Most anglers I see are freshwater and using small dories or row-boats and small outboards. I reckon the inland fishy users skew your figures dramatically.
 
Yes, I thought of that - 59% of boat anglers are always coastal, 19% always inland and the rest split between the two. I've got no info as yet on the split between petrol and diesel use for boat anglers but would hypothesise that this would be roughly the same as for all engined boats <8m - and that petrol or diesel use was not class determined (i.e. petrol engined charter fishing boats did not have a socio-economic bias) which still means that an end to red diesel would impact adversely on C2DEs.

Also I'm looking at figs for charter fishing; one guy taking his dory out one day a week is 52 events, a charter boat taking 6 passengers out 150 times a year is 1,050 events (with just one crew) so commercial charter fishing boats fuel use is quite significant.

[Edit - even though an end to red diesel won't affect commercial charters, obv]
 
Do We Want To Be Posh?

[ QUOTE ]
POSH, an acronym that stands for Port Out, Starboard Home.

In the early 20th century, travelers who took large ocean liners from Great Britain to India and back found that the most pleasant method -- for those who could afford it -- was to travel on the port side of the ship out to India, and to travel home on the starboard side of the ship. Over the years, the acronym has come to denote gracious living.

[/ QUOTE ]
 
Re: Do We Want To Be Posh?

They're a 50s v. outdated way of classifying people according to their occupations, still used by advertisers but bolstered by all sorts of other (and much more relevant) groupings based on likely spending habits for whatever products they're trying to sell.

Don't think they have a lot to do with what is traditionally meant by "class". An inner city teacher has a higher standing than a non-board level director etc. etc.

I suppose the question "Are raggies poorer than stinkies?" would get an answer that's far too obvious.
 
Re: Do We Want To Be Posh?

A Higher managerial, administrative or professional

B Intermediate managerial, administrative and professional

C1 Supervisory, clerical, junior administrative or professional

C2 Skilled manual workers

D Semi and unskilled manual workers

E State pensioners, widows, lowest grade workers.

No mention of Landed Gentry, but I guess they'd qualify as (E). /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Re: Do We Want To Be Posh?

i remember reading the case papers for a poaching trial some years ago.
the statement of the main witness, sir james ...., disclosed that he considered his occupation to
be " landowner " !
 
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