With the proposed new show at Earl's Court in November, a challenge to the ExCel show has been laid down. Which show would you prefer to visit next winter?
I've been to Earls Court many times over the last 30 years and always enjoyed it. Southhampton was always a bit special but its outdoors and you get to the boat sas you should see them.
Went to Excel this year with the family and it was real tw@t to get to, and we had to stay 2 nights in Oxford as well to keep the cost down. Kids hated it, Wife hated it & I hated it. Will probabley not go again-to much glitz and not enough boat stuff.
Stuffy buggers selling £m pound boats, who wont even lets kids have a look. I know some kids can/ may cause some slight disturbance, but these people just take the piss.
This show is not aimed at serious boaty poeple, people at the sharp end of boating. Its basicly a trade show for Excel.
Certainly the most disapointing show I've ever been too!
I have not seen any attendance figures for this years Excel show. There were a couple of things written about "excellent sales" etc. but they always say that. Everyone I have spoken to, say they will never go back.
I much prefer Southampton as I feel looking at boats in the pouring rain is much more like the real world, after all we are going to be getting wet when using them.
Allan
Guys, what's wrong with Excel?? What is it you're after?? I've been to the last 3 shows at Excel (and admittedly only once to Earls Court in the 80's) and I've found Excel to be an enjoyable day out. The boats I want to drool over are there - I'm not in the market but always have a good chat with the salespeople on the ‘quality’ yacht stands. All of the other companies I'm generally interested in talking to or buying things off are there and always have time to chat. What is it that I'm missing without realising it?
just right
We always had a good day out at Earls court and left for the hotel feeling that we could have seen and done even more.But at the new venue (we have been twice) its a feeling of relief to head back to the hotel and leave it all behind.
Maybe we are just getting older and its a touch of nostalgia?
Excel is plastic and concrete. When you put people into aseptic surroundings like that they behave in an aseptic way. Sailing is as much to do with feelings, art and mystery as it is to do with the technical aspect. When you bring the subject down to a bucket of engineering bits you miss what it is all about - for yachtsmen, I mean.
I don't suppose it makes any difference to many motor boat users - and I am not having a dig at them - but motor boats (other than, perhaps, classic boats) just aren't very romantic. As a bucket of engineering bits, they live happily in Excel, along with the folks who build and sell them.
Ducking, the truth is painful /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Have been going to the excell boat show since it started, I also get p...ed off when you pay your entrance fee and find that you are able to get on less and less boats at the show, I have contacted the boat show people, nobody has been willing to either discuss my concerns or even care. I have mentioned my feelings to many people I know who used to go regulary but go no longer, I have now about 650 people who have agreed NOT to go until better and freeier access is available to look around the boats, after all that is the main reason why most people go. Hopefully the new earls court show will not lose site of this basic reason for going to the show.
Should we boycott the excell show until better access to all boats is allowed??
Simple, - Access to all the boats, we pays our money so we should be able to look around. - not a question of are we going to buy it now - but a question of 1) what we would like to aspire to, 2) looking for ideas, 3) seeing whats on the market, 4) advice the list goes on. - more access to the boats, no more appointments only or by invitation only signs, be open, be freindly NOT stuck up sticky bigs