Nautical
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Big Hatteras type yacht pulled into Douglas IOM today and was flying this flag, any ideas what it is, sorry about quality of piccy took it off video.
What flag is this anyone?
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Whitelighter
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Balliwick of Jersey/Guernsey???????
Vara
Active member
Bermuda?The closest other one I could find was the Falkland islands, probably unlikely unless the price of penguin fillets has gone up a great deal.
Geordie
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Cayman Islands?
BWI
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Yes, Cayman Islands courtesy flag which must be flown by all visiting vessels in Cayman. The blue version of this can only be used by the police in Cayman, this enables their vessels to be easily identified. The flag blue or red can be flown outside their waters without causing offence to them.
ashanta
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It's a scandalised red ensign and as you mention the Isle of Man you probably have found the answer. The Caribean is full of scanadalised Red Ensigns used by some Ex some not ex British colonies with tax excemptions. In other words their not paying the same for their boat that we 40% are!
regards.
peter.
regards.
peter.
BWI
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Boy, don't some people talk nonsense, it IS a Cayman flag, end of story!
ashanta
New member
Dont tell me nonsense!
It's exactly the point I described. The caribean is full of these boats boat owned by businesses who are off setting their tax liablities. They are flags of convienience. Dont tell me they are Countries of the commonwealth because that wont hold. Businesses and business men are exploiting this all the time.
Maybe you are ?
It's not a true Red Ensign, as in the UK. It not acceptable to scandalise the Red ensign in the UK, therefore why should it be allowed or even recognised by British in foriegn countries?
It's exactly the point I described. The caribean is full of these boats boat owned by businesses who are off setting their tax liablities. They are flags of convienience. Dont tell me they are Countries of the commonwealth because that wont hold. Businesses and business men are exploiting this all the time.
Maybe you are ?
It's not a true Red Ensign, as in the UK. It not acceptable to scandalise the Red ensign in the UK, therefore why should it be allowed or even recognised by British in foriegn countries?
Ships_Cat
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Errr. I live in a country that has a defaced British marine blue ensign as its national flag and a defaced red one as its own marine ensign. My boat is also registered in the same country and so the defaced red is the flag it is to fly. Seems that I am some sort of crook or second rate citizen cos not the "real" British flag.
People put their vessels under different flags for many reasons (including that they may live there) and I would think that all the Category 1, Red Ensign Group British Register's, especially, would be amused by your uninformed and gutter level burblings imagining that those who choose registers other than the British one are some sort of malevolents. I suggest that you grow up.
Finally, as BWI states, the flag in the photo is that of the Cayman Islands, not of some other place as you claim.
John
People put their vessels under different flags for many reasons (including that they may live there) and I would think that all the Category 1, Red Ensign Group British Register's, especially, would be amused by your uninformed and gutter level burblings imagining that those who choose registers other than the British one are some sort of malevolents. I suggest that you grow up.
Finally, as BWI states, the flag in the photo is that of the Cayman Islands, not of some other place as you claim.
John
BWI
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This may stop the utter drivel from above /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
see :- http://www.flags.net/country.php?country=CYIS§ion=CURR
see :- http://www.flags.net/country.php?country=CYIS§ion=CURR
mjf
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Its a Cayman Is flag.
I used to fly the Bermuda Flag when had a boat registered there. FYI the local tax on all marine stuff incl. the hull was over 40%.
So.....do not understand your point on costs.
I used to fly the Bermuda Flag when had a boat registered there. FYI the local tax on all marine stuff incl. the hull was over 40%.
So.....do not understand your point on costs.
goochie
New member
So it's none of those then!!!
Eccles
Member
Qute "It not acceptable to scandalise the Red ensign in the UK"
What's this then
?
What's this then
?
capnjack
New member
Doesn't look like a Caymen flag to me, where's the Turtle? And the it's got green stuff on top not yellow???
brianrunyard
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Looks like the old version to me.
In 1999 the Ministry of Defence decided to increase the size of the badges and to remove the white discs from blue and red ensigns. The older versions, with white discs, are still in official use.
In 1999 the Ministry of Defence decided to increase the size of the badges and to remove the white discs from blue and red ensigns. The older versions, with white discs, are still in official use.
capnjack
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Yep, tis the old one and the Turtle is there all along!! Well well!!
We've asked the audience and phoned a friend and now had the 50/50 so......
So...Final Answer! Old Caymen Ensign with the white disc!!
We've asked the audience and phoned a friend and now had the 50/50 so......
So...Final Answer! Old Caymen Ensign with the white disc!!
chippie
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If you look at BWI's link and have both windows open on your computer, you can see that it is a Cayman Is. flag, part of the turtle can be distinguished.
capnjack
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jfm
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Nonsense talk on tax avoidance
Ashanta you are talking complete garbage. It is insulting and wrong to suggest that Cayman (and similar) registered boats are all owned by tax evaders.
In any case, just choosing one of these registries actually saves no UK tax at all. If a UK individual or business owns a boat and has tax to pay in the Uk then not one bean of that tax can ever be saved just by virtue of registering the boat in (say) Cayman as opposed to UK.
There are many boats flagged in these territories whose UK owners pay more UK tax in a year than you will pay in your entire lifetime. So every time you drive along the road or use a hospital you are using resources paid for by them. I dont expect you to send them all Christmas cards but you might at least have the courtesy not to insult them.
Ashanta you are talking complete garbage. It is insulting and wrong to suggest that Cayman (and similar) registered boats are all owned by tax evaders.
In any case, just choosing one of these registries actually saves no UK tax at all. If a UK individual or business owns a boat and has tax to pay in the Uk then not one bean of that tax can ever be saved just by virtue of registering the boat in (say) Cayman as opposed to UK.
There are many boats flagged in these territories whose UK owners pay more UK tax in a year than you will pay in your entire lifetime. So every time you drive along the road or use a hospital you are using resources paid for by them. I dont expect you to send them all Christmas cards but you might at least have the courtesy not to insult them.
Ships_Cat
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Re: Nonsense talk on tax avoidance
Much better put than what I managed /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif.
John
Much better put than what I managed /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif.
John
