Wha Chian trawler - UK

[AuckBlues]

Hello
I have taken the bold step of starting off on our family liveaboard/12mth journey. We left NZ in (via air NZ) October this year and been in London since then. Planning next phase which is to purchase boat for liveaboard - March 08. I have seen a boat which fits most requirements.
39 Wha Chian trawler.

Q. I will need to re-sell in northern europe. preferably back in UK. Can anyone give a general market perception of tawaineses built vessels in the UK second hand boat market?

Thought some of you motor heads might have some advice. Not looking to make heaps of money just purchase a boat that is re-saleable

I would have preferred a more recognisable boat brand - but the trawler/displacement style (which i have setteled on) are in short supply in the lower med region? Turkey,Greece.

Any and all tips/opinions taken on board.
Cheers

 

[Whitelighter]

Well, I have never heard of them. Do you have a picture or a link to the advert?

If they are unknown, they will likely be a tough sell in Northern Europe, but especially in the UK where buyers are a lot more brand aware. Even if very very cheap, it will still be a tough sell.

 

[AuckBlues]

Hi I cannot attached link.
But if you go to yachtworld.com - type in - wha chian.
Its the only type. Says something..maybe.

'Similar' style to a Grand Banks which is out of Taiwan built from American plans.
I thought the Traders were still popular modes of boating in the UK? Different speced boat but similar function.

Cheers

 

[LittleShip]

I presume that you mean one of these.

Basically they are a copy of the Grand Banks, like many others that are made in Taiwan. There are many manufacturers of Trawlers but in the UK Trawlers are a specialized market and if you want an "easy sell" you would be better keeping to the recognised market.

Motor boats in the UK seem to be of the "get up and go" style but that may change in the near future due to red diesel departing.

In short.......... some Trawlers have a small following in the UK, not many, but I have to say I am biased?

Tom /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

 

[Piers]

Trawler yachts seem to be becoming more popular (acceptable?). From Grand Banks, to Fleming, to Nordhaven, to Marlow and Selene, more and more are available in the UK or Europe. With the demand growing I suspect prices will become more stable.

 

[Salty John]

I agree, trawlers have a lot to offer and are increasingly popular amongst former (ageing?) raggies. They provide stately progress and reasonable offshore capability without having to pull all those bits of string.
However, as a former Grand Banks owner I have to say that one needs to beware of cheap imitations. The one pictured in the post by Little Ship looks pretty grim to me - that weird shaped port ahead of the companionway and the raised afterdeck - what's that all about? Quality can be dubious on some Taiwanese boats, excellent on others, so you need to look carefully.
If you can find a Grand Banks, which were made in Hong Kong and then Singapore, you'll have a superb quality boat with good resale potential albeit in a limited European market for trawlers.

 

[Piers]

Hi Saltyjohn. Ageing - yes (59!); former raggie - no (I was a mobo speed freak until 2003); stately progress - agreed.

I have posted a qn about Wha Chian trawlers on the main USA trawler forum, here, so let's see what's said.

 

[jimg]

I think the name is slightly wrong it should be Chien Hwa

http://sol.oc.ntu.edu.tw/OMISAR/industry/ct/tourism.htm

Chien Hwa
10 Hang Chou S. Rd, 3rd Floor
Sec. 1, Taipei, Taiwan
+886 2 392 1257
fax +886 2 394 1138
Builds Kadey-Krogen 42, as well as 35-, 42- and 44-foot motoryachts.

or

Chung Hwa Boatbuilding Co.
10 Hang Chou S. Rd
Sec. 1, Taipei, Taiwan
+886 2 321 3337
Builds CHB sail 34, 40, 42, 46 and 48 feet, Lafitte 44 and 66. Power from 34 to 58 feet in several layouts.

 

[LittleShip]

Nope the one above is being sold as a Wha Chian trawler

 

[Shannoner]

Is this one of them for sale in Ireland? HERE

 

[Piers]

LVNLONDON - in case you haven't been looking, the thread on this american trawler website (Passage Maker) has had an interesting reply about your proposed trawler.

Look Here.

 

[jimg]

I still think it is a typo! ANyway another broker thinks it is a C-KIP

http://www.boatshop24.co.uk/boats/7091000-C-Kip-39.html

 

[AuckBlues]

Hi thanks for comments

Piers I have followed link to PassageMaker and onto other links/sites on that thread. Given a better understanding of the history of boat builder.

Always buyer beware and a full survey would be undertaken. I would say as a general comment a boat of this age would have most problems sorted out and the engines would be a major as the have not been overhauled/reconditioned at all.

I need a vessel that is capable of coastal and canal/river cruising. I do not have any raggie experience and prefer the stabiltiy and economy of a displacement. Long term cruising not weekend trips.

I may have to increase my budget and move up to a more recognisable boat brand.

Thanks for everyones comments