weston ledge buoy

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does it still exist? yes I know its on the charts but I cant find it on google earth and cmap has it as a "work in progress mark" which implies its temporary.

so has anyone got a definite recent sighting and a lang and lat for it?
 
never heard of a buoy called juicey. any idea if that really is the one I am looking for which the chart shows as 3/4 mile SW of birnbeck?
 
Use a search engine for "juicey buoy" the first result will take you to Weston bay's website with a discription of said buoy. See if it matches what you are looking for.
 
I am still trying . Google's first response was " Sexual Harassment Buoy: Big Fat and Juicy - YouTube" but I guess that isnt Weston Bay YC . :D I hope not anyway.

I finally found a reference to the juicy bouy " The outer mark is the Juicy Buoy, an orange buoy with top, at 51deg 19.72'N 3deg 00.71'W (2001)". This position is just north of brean down. It could be a missprint but if not then it isnt the buoy I am looking for. The one I am looking for is shown on my chart at 51 21.2N 003 1.1W and is a yellow special mark 5fl 20s
 
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As far as I know there is only the juicy buoy that leads you from the deep water to the channel markers (heading into the river axe) the only other marker was a weather buoy that walked a few years ago. If anyone has more information I could stand corrected.
 
what's so important about this buoy anyway? enquiring minds need to know.

ETA: a picture paints a thousand words so here is the buoy in question. Incidentally this is the September 2015 latest edition of the Imray C59 chart and the subsequent corrections (checked today) say nothing about the mark being removed, so perhaps the question should be, why wouldn't it be there?

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thanks bitbaltic, an answer at last. as for why, see post 1. mind you I guess that temporary buoys could be just like motorway cones. temporary = "until I get round to doing something about it".
 
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thanks bitbaltic, an answer at last. as for why, see post 1. mind you I guess that temporary buoys could be just like motorway cones. temporary = "until I get round to doing something about it".
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Indeed!

I checked Navionic's webapp which says nothing about work in progress on the buoy itself but does have a 'works in progress (2009) flag near some disused cables at Weston.

wip.jpg

This leads me on to a larger point which is that vector charts specifically (cMap or Navionics) seem to carry a lot of obsolete/abandoned flags like this. These 'works', whatever they are, were in progress 7 years ago, are doubtless complete, but the flag has not been removed by the cartographer- and it makes makes a navigator think that there might be something temporary e.g. about the buoyage- and that creates a serious problem.

By way of comparison I looked at Porthcawl on the Navionics Webapp to see what it says about the 'works' that were completed there a couple of years ago: and it doesn't even show the marina yet. It does, however, have some weird community edits which look like people trying to flag up their b&b as a 'facility' at Porthcawl.

Contrast this with the Imray raster I posted previously, which is quite clear about what's there now and what's not: the chart is up to date and the software will display any corrections in the area since publication date (there aren't any).

Since buying Navionics and running it on both a plotter and a PC this season I've been astonished by how much obscure and/or obsolete yet misleading junk like this it contains, and it seems CMap is not any better.
 
Interesting comparison. And likely you have answered my question. I should have thought of this before but I am using OpenCPM with charts from an old CMap package. Mind you, I have never navigated with up to date charts so thats nothing new.
 
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