Weight of a Hustler 30?

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Am trying to get quotes for a road move of a 1974 Hustler 30. I have been asked the weight and trawling the web (yachtsnet, Hustler Owners Association website, sailboat data etc) throws up figures ranging anywhere from 6500lbs (2950kg) to 9590lbs (4350kg). That seems a wide range. Any Hustler 30 owners know which end of the scale is most likely to be accurate?

Possible to lift with a HIAB truck?
 
KevO said:
Am trying to get quotes for a road move of a 1974 Hustler 30. I have been asked the weight and trawling the web (yachtsnet, Hustler Owners Association website, sailboat data etc) throws up figures ranging anywhere from 6500lbs (2950kg) to 9590lbs (4350kg). That seems a wide range. Any Hustler 30 owners know which end of the scale is most likely to be accurate?

Possible to lift with a HIAB truck?
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try Debages in Ipswich.
they have a trailer & it has some sort of lift facility.
She must be around 4 Tons
Fine boat By Holman & Pye
 
sailorman said:
try Debages in Ipswich.
they have a trailer & it has some sort of lift facility.
She must be around 4 Tons
Fine boat By Holman & Pye
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Sure enough... My offer (subject to survey) was accepted :D

Now I have to survey, insure and ship it to Falmouth :(

Quotes for shipping so far range from £995 (sort out seperate cranage at each end) or £1450 inclusive using a HIAB truck. Not sure a HIAB can unstep the mast and load boat and cradle though unless I can thrash out a few more specific details such as weight and height from bottom of keel (cradle) to top of coachroof plus mast laid fore and aft etc.
 
KevO said:
Am trying to get quotes for a road move of a 1974 Hustler 30. I have been asked the weight and trawling the web (yachtsnet, Hustler Owners Association website, sailboat data etc) throws up figures ranging anywhere from 6500lbs (2950kg) to 9590lbs (4350kg). That seems a wide range. Any Hustler 30 owners know which end of the scale is most likely to be accurate?

Possible to lift with a HIAB truck?
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According to an old PBO publication I have, the Hustler 25.5 is 5264lbs (love the odd 4lbs!:rolleyes:) displacement, of which 2120lbs is ballast. If that's true, a Hustler 30 would be significantly more than 6500lbs, I would have thought.
 
LittleSister said:
According to an old PBO publication I have, the Hustler 25.5 is 5264lbs (love the odd 4lbs!:rolleyes:) displacement, of which 2120lbs is ballast. If that's true, a Hustler 30 would be significantly more than 6500lbs, I would have thought.
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According to an old PBO British Sailing Cruiser Guide I have the Hustler 30 is 6500lbs displacement !
 
If I had to guess (albeit an educated one), I would put her nearer 10,000 pounds or just shy of 5 tons. I can't see any reason she wouldn't be similar to the S&S30, etc.
 
I have the Dinette version of the Hustler 30 and the shallow keel. I also have the original documentation for my Hustler 30 from 1970 and it shows her with an officially registered tonnage of 5.4 tonnes.

If the Hustler 30 you've bought is the XM race version of the Hustler 30 add an extra 600lbs of weight for the deeper keel (2m draft).
 
Captain Haddock said:
I have the Dinette version of the Hustler 30 and the shallow keel. I also have the original documentation for my Hustler 30 from 1970 and it shows her with an officially registered tonnage of 5.4 tonnes.
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But won't that registered tonnage be Thames Measurement (a convention for simply calculating a charge meant to relate to notional cargo carrying capacity), not actual displacement?
 
LittleSister said:
But won't that registered tonnage be Thames Measurement (a convention for simply calculating a charge meant to relate to notional cargo carrying capacity), not actual displacement?
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I did not know that... Just had a look on Wikipedia as to what registered tonnage means http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonnage

I always thought it meant the actual weight... Learn something new every day :)

In which case the displacement according to the brochure is 3450 or 3410 kgs (don't forget the additional if it's a 2m draft)

http://www.hustler-owners.org.uk/wp...ler-30-brochure/hustler-30-brochure-page4.jpg


http://www.hustler-owners.org.uk/wp...ler-30-brochure/hustler-30-brochure-page5.jpg
 
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Captain Haddock said:
I did not know that... Just had a look on Wikipedia as to what registered tonnage means http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonnage

I always thought it meant the actual weight... Learn something new every day :)

In which case the displacement according to the brochure is 3450 or 3410 kgs (don't forget the additional if it's a 2m draft)

http://www.hustler-owners.org.uk/wp...ler-30-brochure/hustler-30-brochure-page4.jpg


http://www.hustler-owners.org.uk/wp...ler-30-brochure/hustler-30-brochure-page5.jpg
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see post 2, a good guess is better than a bad measure :D
 
KevO said:
Am trying to get quotes for a road move of a 1974 Hustler 30. I have been asked the weight and trawling the web (yachtsnet, Hustler Owners Association website, sailboat data etc) throws up figures ranging anywhere from 6500lbs (2950kg) to 9590lbs (4350kg). That seems a wide range. Any Hustler 30 owners know which end of the scale is most likely to be accurate?

Possible to lift with a HIAB truck?
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When we first sold a Hustler 30 I originally put the displacement at 6,500 lbs as I was informed by the owner that this was the figure. He did not know the ballast weight. This then went on to the Yachtsnet archive page.

I have just done some more research, and turned up a 1970 Bristows Book of Yachts giving the displacement as 3.39 tons, which if "long tons" of 2,240 lbs is 7,594 lbs. Ballast is quoted as 1.6 tons (3,584 lbs). I have just this morning put these adjusted figures into the Yachtsnet archive.

These are probably dry weights - fuel and water tanks empty. The original engines were a choice of Dolphin petrol or Volvo MD1 diesel, and there would probably be 100 lb plus extra if a Volvo or less if a Dolphin. Most boats seem to acquire at least 10% extra weight over a few years of usage in extra fittings, stores, spares and a tiny bit of water absorbed into the structure.

The price new in 1970 was £5,000....
 
I don't think they can be as light as 3.5 to 4 tons (long, short or metric).

I would wager a reasonable amount that the original publicity material either quoted a hopelessly optimistic number, or they made a mistake. This figure has then been quoted and re-quoted until it's become a fact.

I think it's likely to be at least 4.5 tons and quoting 5 tons might be safest. Crane operators don't like being surprised by lifts being heavier than they expected. They tend to drop the load promptly and go off in a huff.
 
Hiab capacity

I know very little about Hiabs, but we did recently have our 'new' old boat moved by a lorry with a Hiab. From what I was told then I would think there would be no trouble lifting your boat.

The driver told me that the Hiab could actually lift 8 tons on the lorry bed itself, but that he couldn't lift a boat of that weight as the Hiab couldn't take amount of weight at the extent needed to place a boat that size on the ground and clear of the lorry. He said that 5 tons was manageable, and 4 tons was easy. He demonstrated this by lowering our 'new' old boat (design weight 3.4 tons, assumed maybe really up to 4 tons) at right angles to the lorry.
 
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