Talulah
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Taken Sunday midday Cowes.
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Weekend bit windy - dismasting with pic.
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Nicholas123
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Had they heard of reefing?I see so many people that either don't put the sails up at all or who do not reef when they should do it sometimes makes you wonder.
haydude
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Good one! Being overcanvassed is not supposed to cause a dismast, at worst a broach or a dip. Clearly the rig wasn't correctly tuned, which is typical on most charter boats.
BTW that is a Beneteau First 40 from the Sunsail fleet.
Ian B
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The same boat that we watched broaching its way down Southampton water on Saturday. How many times do you need to broach before you decide to reef?
Sailfree
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In photo it looks calm.
What was the conditions that caused the demast.
Ref other reply - Should all rigs handle all winds with only risk a broach??
What was the conditions that caused the demast.
Ref other reply - Should all rigs handle all winds with only risk a broach??
flipper
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I thought Sunsail charter boats had their sails cut so that they will round up before a broach?
Richard Shead
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That will be the deposit gone then......
Lakesailor
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Wonder if the backstay bust?
What with the mast creasing at the gooseneck and all......
What with the mast creasing at the gooseneck and all......
Talulah
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I was wondering if the shock of an accidental gybe causing backstay failure did it.
It was about F6 at the time. Conditions had calmed down by the time they got in plus entrance to Cowes was quite sheltered.
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GuyS.
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Most likely cause, given that its a Sunsail boat and therefore would be sailing/racing in close proximity to other Sunsail boats is that it clashed rigs. Very easy to do racing windward/leeward courses and upwind / downwind boats get a bit to close.
Unlikely to be caused by broken backstay as on most modern fractional rigs they are a tuning devise and not used to hold the rig up.
Unlikely to be caused by broken backstay as on most modern fractional rigs they are a tuning devise and not used to hold the rig up.
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Talulah
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GuyS.
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dunedin
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This looks like one of their racing fleet - very different type of boats from the med charter stuff, for example
Bosun Higgs
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Real question is why the lifeboat? Dop sunsail boats not have an engine? And with no white tops it cant have been windy.
colingr
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Just thinking the same myself.
Makes a change from a mayday because of a failed engine though
Makes a change from a mayday because of a failed engine though
sailorman
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r_h
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I saw a photo elsewhere showing the boat in a travel lift, with the spinnaker round the prop...
mixmaster
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This is typical of this forum. A boat is dismasted. Not the end of the world but the comments so far are criticising them for not reefing and criticising them for getting help from a lifeboat. Even though those criticising know all the circumstances.
Maybe they were not reefing on purpose? Perhaps they were learning how to control the boat while very overpowered or sailing through strong gusts.
Does every boat that heads into coastal and protected waters such as the Solent need to be 100% self-reliant? They had a dismasting and maybe needed some help. It also looks like they were towed in.
Maybe they were not reefing on purpose? Perhaps they were learning how to control the boat while very overpowered or sailing through strong gusts.
Does every boat that heads into coastal and protected waters such as the Solent need to be 100% self-reliant? They had a dismasting and maybe needed some help. It also looks like they were towed in.
Ceejay
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Stereotypical (anti charter) prejudice
Two wild assumptions in one throwaway sentence. Good to see a high standard of debate still to the fore on the ybw forums.
Two wild assumptions in one throwaway sentence. Good to see a high standard of debate still to the fore on the ybw forums.
awol
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Maybe it was done by a naval officer trying to cross the bow of a tanker!