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:)Ok have been excited for the last couble of days weather looking real nice for torquay area,
check the folowing site this morning for tomorrow sunday 23 julyand they said:

Met Office Sunny all day
Windfinder Sunny all day
Accu weather Sunny all day
BBC torquay weather Sunny all day
Net weather Sunny all day

:):)So sunny all day tommorrow, great:D:)
Have filled boat up with fuel+ car. loaded every thing needed for a day on the including snorkel gear.got money sorted dinner.

But the ******* weather sites now say this.:mad::mad:

Metoffice possibe fog from the west, white cloud possible sun intervals
windfinder sunny intervals cloud in afternoon, possible rain
accu weather sunny intervals all day
bbc torquay weather white cloud all day
net weather overcast with rain around 13-00


:mad::mad::mad:How can they change completly with in 9 hours, and how am i suppose to plan a possible passage when they keep on changing the goal posts. and how can each one be giving a different forcast.

please help before i go mad, what is the best way to follow or plan to the weather forcast.

mark
 
go on a forecasting course, and then you'll understand the complexity.
Simon, who posts on here, runs courses for boaters.
Well worth a weekend if you are struggling to understand what is going on, and afterwards, you'll be able to look at a synoptic chart, and at least make some sense of it.
 
Checked weather at 7-00 were all ready to ride the motorway with boat to torquay, and quess what:

It raining chucking it down here and the rain cloud is heading directly south straight down m5.

Weather sites show no rain at all anywhere today,:confused::confused::confused:

Sorry, just very frustrated.just need too get on the boat, boat fix needed:mad:

ahhhahahahahahaha:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
markcw said:
Checked weather at 7-00 were all ready to ride the motorway with boat to torquay, and quess what:

It raining chucking it down here and the rain cloud is heading directly south straight down m5.

Weather sites show no rain at all anywhere today,:confused::confused::confused:

Sorry, just very frustrated.just need too get on the boat, boat fix needed:mad:

ahhhahahahahahaha:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
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Calm down dear its probably a clearing up shower.
 
Kingskerswell...

It's currently overcast but dry if that helps. Roads currently quiet (I live right on the main A380 into Torquay!)

In my non-meteorologist opinion, it will stay dull until mid morning with perhaps 20-30% of a short shower and then probably brighten up but probably not much sun!

This could be a plus for you as very little wind at the moment and no sun either usually means flat water. Once the sun gets to work, the Bay will often liven up a bit through the day.

P.S. If you're coming this way, please leave that shower behind... :eek::D
 
markcw said:
just found a good site

http://www.raintoday.co.uk/#key

they do show a two large rain belts comeing across from sw heading south east. affecting exeter, torquay,brixham, weymouth,portland.dunkerwel, dartmouth

having a bacon sw and will decide at 8.30
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If you look at this or any other site of those mentioned you will find that they are all saying much the sme thing. Several are using the GFS as their prime input. The UK Numerical weather Prediction model will say basically the same, for the first two or three days at least.

There is only opne set of data see my http://weather.mailasail.com/Franks-Weather/Weather-Observations-Nwp and only one way of using those data see http://weather.mailasail.com/Franks-Weather/Numerical-Weather-Prediction.

There may be differences in presentation but little in content.

You will get more detailed forecasts by paying for them - Simon Keeling will be only too happy to oblige. He will add some interpretation and give specific advice. Personally, I would not pay for any automated forecast.

My site says much about how to get forecasts and about using them. Some of you are clearly well informed. Others might like to read a few of my pages or go on one of Simon's courses. For CA members, I will be giving a day of four talks somethime this winter.
 
In my experience you can take your Yachtmaster Theory and study the Met Office forecast but you just have to be prepared to roll with any of the punches that an English summer is capable of throwing at you.

If I am completely honest, most of my summer cruise plans have been ruined by the weather, but I guess we stick at it on the promise of those rare halcyon moments. When I first started sailing some 25 years ago I was told that if I was not prepared to go sailing in the rain or the dark then I would probably not do much sailing in the UK ... I think that was good advice.
 
The weather forecast has become a joke, no longer fit for purpose. I appreciate it's not an exact science but it has become so very wrong so very often that they might as well roll dice.

Today is a perfect example, forecast as late as yesterday evening was clear skies, perfect sunshine, 22 degrees. It's overcast, showery and mild, not hot.

A few weeks ago they forecast rain every day except Friday. Friday was the only day it rained.

I understand they can't get it right all the time, but it has become so consistently poor, even for the following day forecast, as to be an embarrassment.
 
Thanks for the support avi Agree 100%
Did not go on boat today been raining up to 1030, rang torquay harbour master, even he said not good for today, even thou the focast was good for today yesterday.

Rubbish rubbish forcast, should be wiped off from the internet.
 
joliette said:
In my experience you can take your Yachtmaster Theory and study the Met Office forecast but you just have to be prepared to roll with any of the punches that an English summer is capable of throwing at you.

If I am completely honest, most of my summer cruise plans have been ruined by the weather, but I guess we stick at it on the promise of those rare halcyon moments. When I first started sailing some 25 years ago I was told that if I was not prepared to go sailing in the rain or the dark then I would probably not do much sailing in the UK ... I think that was good advice.
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That is a very pragmatic attitude. After all, the plans of mice and men..........

It really is a matter of what you use weather forecasts for. I use them for planning over the next 5 or so days and to keep me out of trouble. I do not always get it right and neither will any of you – unless you have a direct line to him on high, although even then, I do not believe that he really knows as much as some think.

This year, when in Portosin we had to decide whether to go on to Caramiñas in the expectation that we would be able to go on to A Coruña within a day or two, or go back southward. A few days ago, it was a question of do we go into Ribadesella or not. We would be able to get in but, with a big swell likely to develop, when would we be able to leave.

In both cases, the GRIBs plus Spanish Met made the decisions easy. We got them right and several other decisions this year. Generally speaking, it should be rare to get those types of decision wrong. That is where the main improvements in forecasting have occurred.

On the occasion I posted at http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=278542&highlight=daniel, the Spanish said F4 around the Capo Bares’Ortegal area. From the GRIbs, I was expecting F5 possibly 6. From near Capo Bares into Ria Viveiro, we had F8. I did feel slightly let down by the Spanish because they often treat this small area specifically in their coastal forecasts. But that is what will happen sometimes.

At the risk of being repetitive, there is nothing certain in any forecast except the date – theological questions apart. Systematic use of forecasts will help you to minimise risks but never eliminate them.
 
Can I add my grievances too about this weekend's weather forecast(s)? I'm a newbie, we only got our boat 2 weeks ago. This weekend was only the 3rd time we've used it... taking heed of the reasonably good weather forecasts - taken from a variety of resources, it's been mostly a disaster! Being new to motorboating, particularly mooring/berthing we thought we'd be fine. Yesterday was a little choppy outside Newhaven harbour, but today, supposedly the best of the weekend - was horrendous. As soon as we left the harbour there were huge (to us) waves/swell... quite scary, even more so when we tried to get in/out of our berth. Could hardly control the boat - once the wind blew us into another boat. I'm not very strong (a 5ft female) so couldn't use the boat hook as effectlively as a big butch bloke.

It's awful being watched by sneering onlookers, believe me we're trying our best (wish the boating world used 'L' plates)... but each time mooring is so different- how do we perfect it? My partner's geting really disheartened.... I was feeling reasonably confident before today but also found it tricky. :(
 
Perfect it by continueing to go out and pratice and when you have onlookers, from the harbour wall just think to your self im the one with the boat and your not.

Brush it off, we are still learners even after 4 years of boating. we recently tried to but the boat on the trailer at torquay in windy condition, and the trailer was further up the slip than normal so i decided to climb on the bow of the boat and grap the winch strap, but my foot slipped and i went over the front still holding onto the bow rail, when i got up there was loads of holiday makers all looking and grining, but i carried on and thought. Ive had a nice day on the boat, youve been looking out to sea thinking, would be nice on a boat. so who better off here ME.

Carry on boating and try to enjoy you mess up and learn from them and see what can be done differnt next time.

mark
 
It wasn't too bad in the bay yesterday, and we got a great view when we circled HMS Bulwark and watched them docking the landing craft. I wouldn't like to try that in rough weather.

Here is a link to the Torbay Coast Watch that will give you real time weather. http://www.torbaynci.org.uk/

We are in the fortunate position of being able to look out of our window to see the weather in Lyme Bay, and it often bears little relationship to the forecast!
 
We had the same experience with the forecasts on Saturday but what the hell just went out and practiced things especially anchoring. Today is fantastic of course now I am stuck in front of a computer.
Torbay NCI website looks great, I have added it to my favourites.
Roll on summer. What! You mean this is it!
 
ArcticSnooze said:
Can I add my grievances too about this weekend's weather forecast(s)? I'm a newbie, we only got our boat 2 weeks ago. This weekend was only the 3rd time we've used it... taking heed of the reasonably good weather forecasts - taken from a variety of resources, it's been mostly a disaster! Being new to motorboating, particularly mooring/berthing we thought we'd be fine. Yesterday was a little choppy outside Newhaven harbour, but today, supposedly the best of the weekend - was horrendous. As soon as we left the harbour there were huge (to us) waves/swell... quite scary, even more so when we tried to get in/out of our berth. Could hardly control the boat - once the wind blew us into another boat. I'm not very strong (a 5ft female) so couldn't use the boat hook as effectlively as a big butch bloke.

It's awful being watched by sneering onlookers, believe me we're trying our best (wish the boating world used 'L' plates)... but each time mooring is so different- how do we perfect it? My partner's geting really disheartened.... I was feeling reasonably confident before today but also found it tricky. :(
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Been there, done that.
They aren't really sneering just having a good laugh but you are the ones doing it they are merely bystanders.
I told myself that when the out board wouldn't start after launching in front of most of Dorset. Everyone gets it wrong but if it was that easy everyone would be doing it.
 
markcw said:
Perfect it by continueing to go out and pratice and when you have onlookers, from the harbour wall just think to your self im the one with the boat and your not.

Brush it off, we are still learners even after 4 years of boating. we recently tried to but the boat on the trailer at torquay in windy condition, and the trailer was further up the slip than normal so i decided to climb on the bow of the boat and grap the winch strap, but my foot slipped and i went over the front still holding onto the bow rail, when i got up there was loads of holiday makers all looking and grining, but i carried on and thought. Ive had a nice day on the boat, youve been looking out to sea thinking, would be nice on a boat. so who better off here ME.

Carry on boating and try to enjoy you mess up and learn from them and see what can be done differnt next time.

mark
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Weather wasnt too bad inland. We had hot sun yesterday, was a bit breezy but nothing to write home about.

We almost made a classic mistake yesterday afteroon outside a packed riverside beer garden. Pulled up to the moorings in perfect fashion, both got off in a calm and relaxed manner, both got distracted by seperate onlookers chatting to us, both assumed the other had sorted out the boats, both turned around to find said boat floating into middle of river :D

Luckily we caught it just in time for one of us to jump aboard and throw a rope to shore. Gave the onlookers some entertainment anyway. So it goes to show it doesnt matter how much experience you have mistakes still do happen.
 
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