Weather Musing...Sea Temperature Pondering

simonjk

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Hello and Happy New Year!

I'm in a pondering mood, hope you don't mind? Having been looking at the charts over the past few days, highlighting the risk of a severe outbreaks of severe easterly cold, today's run of the GFS and other models is changing things a bit. Now looking like a shorter lived cold snap this weekend, and a return to milder west or southwesterlies next week.

That's not all bad news for me as this backs up my 30 day forecast (http://www.weatherweb.net/30day.htm), however it poses the question about whether the model is picking up the cold air properly...I suspect that it is.

Sea surface temperature anomalies are great for taking a first step when drawing comparisons between years. For example, take a look at this chart and then compare this with January 1996 at this chart They do look similar don't they?

What can we infer from this? Well, drawing my attentioin is the area of warmer water off northwest Africa, I believe this would tend to encourage convection and hence lower pressuing here, tending towards low pressure. Now, mid Atlantic now has temperatures around normal, so I can't pick up much here. The Mediterranean is cooler so strictly speaking this should raise pressure here, although any lows forming off Africa would probably drift northeast.

The Pacific, west of north America has a large "stripe" of below normal temperatures, so could this encourage higher pressure? If so, I think there would be a ridge through the Pacific, dipping to a trough over North America, with a resultant rise in pressure in the Atlantic, extending through the Mediterranean. Add to this lower pressure off northwest Africa and this may well promote the easterly winds through much of northern Europe (including the UK).

After all that, what am I trying to say? Well, I suspect that as in January 1996 there will be a tendency for colder weather to penetrate the UK at some stage. It will go colder this weekend, perhaps with snow flurries in the east, but I'm not convinced that this will last for longer than say, 4 or 5days. However, I do think that after a week or so of milkder weather, we could see a return to colder weather at the end of the month, lasting into the beginning of February. This period dominated by high pressure over Scotland and low pressure somewhere close to Iberia with the UK stuck in the easterly winds in-between.

So there we go, I can take my anorak off now, hope you find my ramblings interesting?

Best wishes,
Simon

Simon Keeling
 
We take delivery of our new boat on 10 Feb so can you please revise the forcast for then.

We want 10 days of hot sunny weather on the South Coast.

Thanks in advance.

Wayne
 
Interesting Simon, looks like I'll need some warm clothing end of the month as we're doing 3 weeks of sea trials for our new nav system in the Solent.
 
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Interesting Simon, looks like I'll need some warm clothing end of the month as we're doing 3 weeks of sea trials for our new nav system in the Solent.

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We bougth some thermal 'outdoor' trousers recently. They are sort of quilted and lined with Thinsulate, yet are not bulky at all - wore them under my oilies for the first time yesterday out in the Solent and my legs were like toast

Eat your heart out Mr Musto - they only cost about £8 at Aldi
 
Interesting.....Yes
Encouraging.... No!
I have a head cold already. I hate the cold weather, and it does my disposition no good to hear it's gonna get colder. Can't you find something more cheerful to say? If necessary lie to me!!!! Tell me you are wrong and global warming means er... It's gonna get warmer....????
 
Re: Thanks Simon

Hi Peppermint,

I must admit, I think the Shipping Forecast is still one of the most accurate forecasts you'll find. As fart as I know it is still prepared in the traditional way with great care being taken over it.

If my memory is correct (and it may not be) it is used as one of the Met Ogffices performance criteria and so they are keen to get it right.

What do you think of it?

Simon
 
Re: It\'s useful..

.. as far as it goes, though to me the accuracy seems to be less good than of old. It seems to be that provided the "usual" string of lows is creating the weather they're fine. As soon as it gets a bit off the wall they seem to loose their sense of timing and that makes it look like their sense of direction is gone too. If you get a shift or any other major feature, six to twelve hours later than forecast, it might well look like something else is going on with the weather, even though it's the same system at a different time.

I get the feeling that, since "Fish's Hurricane" they may be more inclined to doom and caution and that, I know, keeps some in harbour on perfect sailing days.

I have a concern in the way the RYA treat all "official" forecasts, as holy writ too.
 
Re: It\'s useful..

Here, here. Just look at the snow stuff between Christmas and New year. They forecast a blizzard, and whilst Kent got some, it was pretty much minimal.
 
Some mother month this

Simon,

Interesting comment on your 30 day forecast website: high pressure will dominate the pattern through the remainder of the mother.

Is this American for bad weather?
 
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