We coming in no matter what

I see that regularly in Croatia. The mobo powers backwards and forces the two boats either side apart. However, as long as the fenders are not twisted together (best to remove one set) and don't pop out (which they usually don't), I'm wondering if it does any harm? Everything seems to adjust itself along the line and, as long as the fenders are not totally flattened so they burst, which I've never seen, presumably the forces being exerted will be less than any of the hulls involved would receive in a heavy sea?

I understand that it can be stressful for the boats either side and people often seem to get understandably agitated, as would I, but do you think it actually does any harm?

I don't know so it's just a question really. :confused:

Richard
 
jordanbasset said:
Hi Vic, Cathy was just reading about this and it is sad and it appears it is the final straw for Ian and Bobbie, a lovely couple
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Yes at there age I think it would had been quite stressful .
Both there heath isn't the best and could do without that ,
just as always the port police having got a clue .
It looks like the boat on the left could had release his mooring lines just a bit to move although you can't really see what the other side of him was like .
 
RichardS said:
I see that regularly in Croatia. The mobo powers backwards and forces the two boats either side apart. However, as long as the fenders are not twisted together (best to remove one set) and don't pop out (which they usually don't), I'm wondering if it does any harm? Everything seems to adjust itself along the line and, as long as the fenders are not totally flattened so they burst, which I've never seen, presumably the forces being exerted will be less than any of the hulls involved would receive in a heavy sea?

I understand that it can be stressful for the boats either side and people often seem to get understandably agitated, as would I, but do you think it actually does any harm?

I don't know so it's just a question really. :confused:

Richard
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The problem here Richard is their fenders would had been on a wooden rail and any backwards or forward pull would had probably took the whole rail off , yes they could had remove them , but sometime some of these big motor boats come in at such speed to push everyone over , even the fittest of us don't have time to move quick enough to protect our boat .
We seen not only motor boats but also yacht trying to push three or four yacht ether side of a small gap which are already tight to get in .
 
I was once moored up in a small harbour in Greece when a largish Italian motor boat decided he was going to squeeze into the 3 foot space between me and the next boat. I might normally have moved over if he had asked but I had very shallow water to the side so couldn't. He was very determined and only gave up trying when I managed to indicate to him that if he did try to reverse in, then the coil of rope in my hand was going to end up in the water to await his props.
 
gus said:
I was once moored up in a small harbour in Greece when a largish Italian motor boat decided he was going to squeeze into the 3 foot space between me and the next boat. I might normally have moved over if he had asked but I had very shallow water to the side so couldn't. He was very determined and only gave up trying when I managed to indicate to him that if he did try to reverse in, then the coil of rope in my hand was going to end up in the water to await his props.
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This seemed very ordinary to me too, the sort of thing that will happen a dozen times if you spend August in the Ionian.

I'll put up with the squeeze, but not what follows when it is discovered that in their effort to get in, the anchor hasn't been set properly and they can't be arsed to try again, so propose to spend the night lying heavily on one or other neighbour, probably pulling out their anchor as well.

Most recently this happened to me in Preveza. The Italian owner of the 50 foot yacht that had squeezed in beside my 38 footer actually objected when I said I was pulling out because I couldn't take his weight in a brisk cross-wind, because although "there is nothing wrong with my anchor", then he would have no-one to hold him straight onto the wall!
 
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He seemed to be in the space already just needed to go back a bit. Fender wrap might have been a problem but if the two either side just eased off their stern lines I think it would have all been fine.
 
Info From people who where there at the time and watch it all unfold , is that you could just about fit a med yacht in the slot ,
on both side it was fender to fender before this motor boat which came in at speed . And only slow down when he got stuck between both boats nether boats had any warning his was coming in until there was where shook as all three boats came together .
Once stuck opening up both engine he still couldn't get in any further .
The motor boat never got as far as the quay .
Apparently the motor on the other side was Greek and when the owner spoke to the PP to sort out the situation ,
the PP just walked away .
Yes this does happen hundred of times over the summer months , but most of the time there enough room for boats to move a little to squeeze anther boat in , also you expect the boat to come in slowly not at speed and when it came apparent
There not enough room to move back out .
 
Not just in the Med, in Ramsgate recently on a visitor berth when a yacht jammed himself in between me and the pontoon. After much struggling to and fro and me finally going out and lifting my fenders on deck to allow him access we spent a swelly night listening to some over squished fenders squeaking away. Twas rather foul outside and suspect he had enough, just wanted out of it and took the first spot that presented itself. Boat was away early and we did not detect his departure.
 
The 'not quite wide enough apart for two boats' pontoon spacing at Ramsgate can make a stay quite interesting at times.

While not always possible, my preferred strategy was to try and find a berth were a small/narrow boat was berthed opposite and thereby not have spend the afternoon fending off potential neighbours who were too wide for the available gap.
 
Spoke to Ian and Bobbie in Nidri today. They said that the motorboat causing the problem actually did significant damage to their boat and refused to give them insurance details. When the PP were told the said 'nothing to do with us it is between the two of you' and declined to get involved.
 
JanZ said:
Spoke to Ian and Bobbie in Nidri today. They said that the motorboat causing the problem actually did significant damage to their boat and refused to give them insurance details. When the PP were told the said 'nothing to do with us it is between the two of you' and declined to get involved.
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PP not wanted to get involved , don't surprise me ,
they really are a usless lot and only fit for paper work which they don't do a good job at the best of time .
If you see them tell the. Chrissy and Vic are thinking about then and hope they get it sorted out .
Why some think it's ok for boats to carrying on on this way , I for one can't understand , you wouldn't park you car so close to the car already parked .
It's not even that the bay is so small that other spot couldn't be found .
 
Minn said:
I particularly liked the girl standing on the swim platform of the gin palace clutching a fender.

You have just cured me of wanting to visit Greece by Sea again.
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Minn has you already read , this happen ever where , over the year I have got into some really big row with other boats trying to get in a gap where a real possibilities of damage will happen ,
Although we tend to keep away from walls and quays and rather anchor but even at anchor in this same bay where if we there we take stern lines to the rock people will still try and position their boat so fended as still touching .
In one case I never forget one boat wanted his mate to squeeze in , my reaction was then he best move out so his mate can come in , instead he release his lines to make a tiny bit more room , his mate did get in but not before taken a large lump of his topside and smack his top side port window .
Some how I think the friendship didn't last much longer .
like most people if we can make room we will but I am not going to move my boat so someone else has to squeeze my fenders to get in .
What tends to happen in this particular harbour is people want to moor on the quayside when there pleaty of room to anchor , but instead of coming in early to get a spot they come in late and then look for anywhere they can push they way in .
 
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