want a bigger boat try this

[Artemis_C2121]

For al of you who aspire to a larger vessel perhaps try this at next years haul out

http://www.liveleak.com/ll_embed?f=4627a8984ac8

 

[biffandkatie]

 

[chinita]

Buddy 'ell!

 

[FullCircle]

That is a serious butt joint.

 

[Sixpence]

Can't help thinking dovetail would be better, plus glue

 

[Baddox]

Thanks, that was fascinating.

 

[sailorman]

There is a series on the Yesterday Ch showing the building of the first Mearsk Triple E class, assembled in 34 weeks.
It ended up 4 days over due all assembled is South Korea. We are now a 3rd world country in manufacturing

 

[FullCircle]

There is a series on the Yesterday Ch showing the building of the first Mearsk Triple E class, assembled in 34 weeks.
It ended up 4 days over due all assembled is South Korea. We are now a 3rd world country in manufacturing

Au Contraire, mon vielle voilier.....

Just a little aircraft carrier we knocked up in several lumps, in several places.

 

[sailorman]

http://gcaptain.com/tag/triple-e/

 

[Koeketiene]

Au Contraire, mon vielle voilier.....

[pedant]
sailor = marin
voilier = yacht

Whilst I'm at it:
Mon is masculine
vielle is feminine
Both voilier and marin are masciline

So it should be either
Mon vieux voilier
or
Mon vieux marin
[/pedant]

Unless, of course, you said what you meant

 

[Champagne Murphy]

Au Contraire, mon vielle voilier.....

Just a little aircraft carrier we knocked up in several lumps, in several places.

Ah, but how long before we can't anymore? Also if we have that kind of expertise, how come we can't get the Maersk commercial contracts? The cargo carriers can't be more complex than the military ones.

 

[Koeketiene]

Ah, but how long before we can't anymore? Also if we have that kind of expertise, how come we can't get the Maersk commercial contracts? The cargo carriers can't be more complex than the military ones.

Labour costs.
The carriers could have been built much cheaper in Korea.
OTOH there are matters of national security to consider.
I think keeping such expertise in this country is worth the extra expense.
And for the cynics: the carrier program secured a couple of seats for Labour for the near future.

 

[sailorman]

Ah, but how long before we can't any more? Also if we have that kind of expertise, how come we can't get the Maersk commercial contracts? The cargo carriers can't be more complex than the military ones.

The Koreans are building 3 triple Es at the same time + 2 others

[Three. From left: Marstal Maersk (Triple-E #8), Mayview Maersk (#10) and Maribo Maersk (#7) under construction at the DSME shipyard in Okpo, South Korea. Click image for largerBackground: Superstructures of the 13,000 TEU containerships, Hyundai Hope and Hyundai Dream.]

 

[FullCircle]

Labour costs.
The carriers could have been built much cheaper in Korea.
OTOH there are matters of national security to consider.
I think keeping such expertise in this country is worth the extra expense.
And for the cynics: the carrier program secured a couple of seats for Labour for the near future.

Me too, mon vielle voilier

 

[chinita]

http://gcaptain.com/tag/triple-e/

Very impressive.

Is there a picture for one minus 520 containers?

 

[sailorman]

Very impressive.

Is there a picture for one minus 520 containers?

Just "Cut n Paste" to suit

 

[Bru]

Labour costs.

THis is something of a myth. In fact, even the Koreans are struggling with labour costs which is why some modules of the Tripe E's have been built in Taiwan

The real reason(s) we don't have the capability to build large modular ships are several - union intransigence to changing closed shop working practices and management inability to keep up with modern developments are oft cited but far from the whole story. What is rarely mentioned are the real killers - the private shipyard owners who preferred to take the profits out and invest them elsewhere rather than put money into the yards followed by half hearted government investment post nationalisation.

And then the death blow to end the industry apart from the rump retained to service the RN and appease the Clyde ... the Thatcher government accepting EU money on the condition that the UK stopped building ships other than on the Clyde and at Barrow (apart from some minor stuff)

That left the extensive yards on the Tyne derelict, most of the Clyde yards went, the massive site at H&W in Belfast standing empty and the (at that time) best covered assembly hall and construction dock in Europe, recently constructed in Sunderland, standing idle. Not to mention the largest marine cam/crank manufacturing plant in the world (also in Sunderland, mothballed after making about half a dozen cranks) and so on

The UK could have been, just a few years later, leading the way on the construction of oil field (and later wind farm) support vessels, within a decade the market for small to medium carriers went mad and then there's the big stuff

Blohm & Voss etc and the Norwegians get the plum stuff, the Koreans get the big bulk carriers and tankers. The UK gets to spend a ridiculous amount of taxpayers money on two carriers we don't need and have no aircraft to fly on and when that's over then what?

OK, so we would have been up against it competing with the Koreans (just ask the Japanese!) but we didn't even try. It really hacks me off!

 

[Kurrawong_Kid]

Erbas is so correct. He might have added finance houses in the City of London who only look short term and expect a quick buck and are not in for the long haul. Heavy industry and its needs does not figure in their calculations. And I might add 5 year parliaments with politicians who find it very hard to take a long term view of anything (HS2 being a rare exception)

 

[Koeketiene]

THis is something of a myth. In fact, even the Koreans are struggling with labour costs which is why some modules of the Tripe E's have been built in Taiwan

Not a myth. Your point merely demonstrates that even the Koreans are now being undercut on labour.
Every industrial society is engaged in a race for the bottom when it comes to labour costs.
One of the unpleasant side effects of globalisation.

I doubt the Egyptians would have been able to build the pyramids without slavery.

 

[sailorman]

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