Walker Bay - PVC or Hypalon?

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PVC option is cheaper and a few KG lighter. Hypalon is heavier and more UV resistant. Has that just about summed it up?

It was pointed out to me that the extra price of the Hypalon option would fund a new set of PVC tubes after 3-4 years.

I know we have a few WB owners here so please do tell :)
 
vote: PVC

Magnum said:
PVC option is cheaper and a few KG lighter. Hypalon is heavier and more UV resistant. Has that just about summed it up?

It was pointed out to me that the extra price of the Hypalon option would fund a new set of PVC tubes after 3-4 years.

I know we have a few WB owners here so please do tell :)
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I think hurric has hypalon. I got pvc becuae they had no hypalon stock in uk so couldn't supply hypalon in time. I was expecting the pvc to be nasty/cheap, but when it arrived I was pleasantly surprised. It felt proper good quality and I was very pleased with it, and I would now order pvc again.
 
jfm said:
I think hurric has hypalon. I got pvc becuae they had no hypalon stock in uk so couldn't supply hypalon in time. I was expecting the pvc to be nasty/cheap, but when it arrived I was pleasantly surprised. It felt proper good quality and I was very pleased with it, and I would now order pvc again.
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You still got it jfm? How many seasons med use? Any deterioration?
 
Magnum said:
You still got it jfm? How many seasons med use? Any deterioration?
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Nope. I only had it 1.5 seasons and it lived under a sunbrella cover so I can't comment on its longevity. All I can say is it felt really high quaility, not at all as PVC-ish as I was expecting. Indeed, I'd have said it was hypalon if I didn't know otherwise. On the 3.4m it was £900 saving and if I were buying again I'd get the PVC. It certianly felt like it would last many seasons looking mint. As you know, on a W'Bay you can swap out the tubes anyway if they get tatty
 
Yep - my one is Hypalon.
My WB was one of the first and I didnt know what the PVC quality would be like.
At least Hypalon was a recognised product.
Not problems - in its third year now.
Got a bit dirty at the end of last season so cleaned it with some of Haydn's boat remover.
Probably shouldnt have but it came up like new.
I think it will outlive me!!
 
Great info, thanks. Think I will go for PVC as I've heard quality is far removed from Zodiac stuff. Never owned a tender longer than 3 years so not an issue that tubes may need replacing at 4-5.

Haven't made final decision but this is just for tender duties, not fun, so thinking of a WB 310FTD plus Merc 9.9HP. Total dry weight is around 99KG.
 
Magnum said:
Great info, thanks. Think I will go for PVC as I've heard quality is far removed from Zodiac stuff. Never owned a tender longer than 3 years so not an issue that tubes may need replacing at 4-5.

Haven't made final decision but this is just for tender duties, not fun, so thinking of a WB 310FTD plus Merc 9.9HP. Total dry weight is around 99KG.
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You could consider buying an old merc 9.9 2T and having it refurbed by that specialist firm Firefly posted link to, in USA. Will cost same as a new 9.9 4T but quite a lot lighter, and torqueyer at lower rpm

Having seen the physical size of my new Yam 50 4T I sometimes wonder if i should have done this, though I can't think of a fab old 50 2T worth restoring (I never much liked the Merc; twas a heavy old 4 cyl thing). I was on tcm's tender this summer and he has a 2T Yam25 enduro, bought new in carib where they dont have all this emissions stuff. It's light and powerful, obviously!

Anyway, all that might be more hassle than it's worth. A nice shiny new merc 9.9 wd be very nice I'm sure (efi now, maybe)
 
jfm said:
You could consider buying an old merc 9.9 2T and having it refurbed by that specialist firm Firefly posted link to, in USA. Will cost same as a new 9.9 4T but quite a lot lighter, and torqueyer at lower rpm

Having seen the physical size of my new Yam 50 4T I sometimes wonder if i should have done this, though I can't think of a fab old 50 2T worth restoring (I never much liked the Merc; twas a heavy old 4 cyl thing). I was on tcm's tender this summer and he has a 2T Yam25 enduro, bought new in carib where they dont have all this emissions stuff. It's light and powerful, obviously!

Anyway, all that might be more hassle than it's worth. A nice shiny new merc 9.9 wd be very nice I'm sure (efi now, maybe)
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You got a link for firely jfm? Might be worth considering.

However, there is often misinformation about how light certain 2-strokes are/were. For example the Yam 25 tcm has is 47.6KG - http://www.onlineoutboards.com/Yamaha-25-hp-25MSH.html The new Honda 20HP 4-stroke is not quite as powerful but is actually a tad lighter at 46.5KG - http://www.honda.co.uk/marine/15-30hp/BF20/specifications/ I know which one I'd rather have.
 
Magnum said:
It was pointed out to me that the extra price of the Hypalon option would fund a new set of PVC tubes after 3-4 years.
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If that's true, I would consider PVC for practical reasons; keeping a white dinghy white becomes harder every season. Our white Quicksilver has served us six seasons and it's starting to look pretty untidy no matter what I try to clean it with.

Having the option of changing new tubes would freshen the looks no end.
 
If you're bothered about weight, it might be worth considering slightly smaller HP and find a Tohatsu 9.8hp two stroke, which weighs something like 27kg. IIRC, they were, by far, the lightest thing around for the power.

I've got one a Caribe RIB - it will plane two up with luggage etc. It won't plane three up though - but that is with a very heavy dink.
 
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Can a Tohatsu 9.8 2-stroke actually be bought new anywhere? People talk about the Carib but then net isn't showing any options.
 
Salty John said:
Powerboats,

As a matter of interest, why do we have to know you sent a PM to Magnum. Why didn't you just send a PM?

Just curious.
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Sometimes I have missed a PM for a couple of days after it was sent.

Newsailer said:
Maybe we should guess. I reckon Powerboats has a very nice, not too old, 9.8 Tohatsu sitting in his garage and Magnum can have it for a very reasonable sum :D
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Very close.
 
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