inca
New member
Volvo penta 2020 vs Yanmar 3YM20 both ca.20hp what should i buy
Volvo penta vs Yanmar
- Thread starter inca
- Start date
iangrant
New member
Yanma
trouville
N/A
I have an MD32 in my Hillyard and the spares for that are very expensive.And anyone supplying parts at discount to casual telephone clients,me, have been told that if the supplier found to have done that they will have problems??
There service is awful and the sales cheat by charging far more than the given price (prices and post charges) and it took several months before i got the clear over charge refunded.
I bought in the UK as Italy dident have the parts in stock,nor did the UK they came from Belgium then UK then France,then by car to Italy.
In Italy and France a boat with a volvo engine is far harder to sell.
On the other hand everyone except a Canadian in Elba that i know with Yanmar are depresingly enthusiastic about them and many claim sources of spares at very discounted prices.Even the Canadian admits his troubles could be in part, due to his repairs?
There service is awful and the sales cheat by charging far more than the given price (prices and post charges) and it took several months before i got the clear over charge refunded.
I bought in the UK as Italy dident have the parts in stock,nor did the UK they came from Belgium then UK then France,then by car to Italy.
In Italy and France a boat with a volvo engine is far harder to sell.
On the other hand everyone except a Canadian in Elba that i know with Yanmar are depresingly enthusiastic about them and many claim sources of spares at very discounted prices.Even the Canadian admits his troubles could be in part, due to his repairs?
Koeketiene
Well-known member
Yanmar!
Seconded
Seconded
john_morris_uk
Well-known member
Re: Yanmar!
I would have said Yanmar a couple of years ago, but the price of Volvo spares although often exhorbitant is not clear cut.
On the Volvo 20xx series, I believe the price of spares to be very competitive.
If you think Yanmar will be cheaper, try getting some quotes from both dealers/suppliers and doing a comparison! I have come across a few Yanmar owners who are shuddering.
We currently have a 2040, but have had Yanmars in the past....
I would have said Yanmar a couple of years ago, but the price of Volvo spares although often exhorbitant is not clear cut.
On the Volvo 20xx series, I believe the price of spares to be very competitive.
If you think Yanmar will be cheaper, try getting some quotes from both dealers/suppliers and doing a comparison! I have come across a few Yanmar owners who are shuddering.
We currently have a 2040, but have had Yanmars in the past....
gianenrico
Member
Re: Yanmar!
My VP 2020 is 16 years old.
The spares Ihave needed sa far where: water and oil rings for water pump (once), rubber membrane for sail drive (once), gasket for exaust tube (this year), water pump impeler (trhee times as preventive maintenance).
I do order the parts directly from the official distributor near Milan and find the prices acceptable, the service good and the assistance very good.
is it also true that the prices for anode protections are almost twice those "unlabeled"
In my very personal opinion, a boat with a non-Volvo engine is less attractive in the italian market.
Cheers,
Gianenrico
My VP 2020 is 16 years old.
The spares Ihave needed sa far where: water and oil rings for water pump (once), rubber membrane for sail drive (once), gasket for exaust tube (this year), water pump impeler (trhee times as preventive maintenance).
I do order the parts directly from the official distributor near Milan and find the prices acceptable, the service good and the assistance very good.
is it also true that the prices for anode protections are almost twice those "unlabeled"
In my very personal opinion, a boat with a non-Volvo engine is less attractive in the italian market.
Cheers,
Gianenrico
charles_reed
Active member
Volvo are far better recognised as a "boating" engine amongst the non-cognoscenti. For this reason a Volvo-engined boat is more easily saleable.
There are still jarring design errors in their production engines and, though their spares prices are not quite as astronomical as they were, spares are unreasonably expensive.
Yanmar engines, world-wide, out-produce Volvo x3. They are, unlike the Volvo, designed from scratch as a marine engine and are extremely well value-engineered. (That is not quite the compliment it appears). Being designed for 3rd world use they're reliable, have an outstanding power/weight ratio and keenly priced.
Unfortunately in european markets the prices are maintained at "market-levels" and spares likewise are high in price. Fortunately a high proportion of the ancillaries can be sourced from aftermarket parts and are a much more economical buy.
I'd certainly go for a Yanmar rather than a Volvo, world-wide spares are more easily and cheaply obtainable, though that's not so apparent in Europe - in the end it comes down to how hard a bargain you can drive with the distributor.
The place to buy a Yanmar is Thailand, so I'm told.
There are still jarring design errors in their production engines and, though their spares prices are not quite as astronomical as they were, spares are unreasonably expensive.
Yanmar engines, world-wide, out-produce Volvo x3. They are, unlike the Volvo, designed from scratch as a marine engine and are extremely well value-engineered. (That is not quite the compliment it appears). Being designed for 3rd world use they're reliable, have an outstanding power/weight ratio and keenly priced.
Unfortunately in european markets the prices are maintained at "market-levels" and spares likewise are high in price. Fortunately a high proportion of the ancillaries can be sourced from aftermarket parts and are a much more economical buy.
I'd certainly go for a Yanmar rather than a Volvo, world-wide spares are more easily and cheaply obtainable, though that's not so apparent in Europe - in the end it comes down to how hard a bargain you can drive with the distributor.
The place to buy a Yanmar is Thailand, so I'm told.
kandoma
New member
Re: Yanmar!
I just changed my Volvo Penta MD3B (9000 h ) with a new Yanmar. Be aware of the extremly big exhaust needed. If I remember correct, my Volvo used to have 45 mm exhaust hose and 19 mm freshwater. Yanmar is using 25 mm cooling water inlet and 65mm exhaust. I have not solved yet the space problems of the water lock. The Vetus waterlock (the round type) is filled up to 60% of capacity when I switch off the engine. So I can not trust it and I have to replace it soon.
Peter
I just changed my Volvo Penta MD3B (9000 h ) with a new Yanmar. Be aware of the extremly big exhaust needed. If I remember correct, my Volvo used to have 45 mm exhaust hose and 19 mm freshwater. Yanmar is using 25 mm cooling water inlet and 65mm exhaust. I have not solved yet the space problems of the water lock. The Vetus waterlock (the round type) is filled up to 60% of capacity when I switch off the engine. So I can not trust it and I have to replace it soon.
Peter
trouville
N/A
Re: Yanmar!
I must add the Italian dealer and the main importer in Via reggio, were really helpful they would have got the parts and there price was better than the UK.
The UK dealer told me they had the parts when they hadent.
In the end i had better waited the 6 weeks or more, the Italians were compleatly honest about the delivery.
Oh and as i have a volvo engine i hope im wrong about the resale, though i wasent thinking of selling her, just changing the engine, but i cant aford it and what a lot of work!
I must add the Italian dealer and the main importer in Via reggio, were really helpful they would have got the parts and there price was better than the UK.
The UK dealer told me they had the parts when they hadent.
In the end i had better waited the 6 weeks or more, the Italians were compleatly honest about the delivery.
Oh and as i have a volvo engine i hope im wrong about the resale, though i wasent thinking of selling her, just changing the engine, but i cant aford it and what a lot of work!
PaulR
Active member
Re: Yanmar!
interesting area, we have had volvo 2002, volvo 2003 and then yanmar 1gm and currently yanmar 3gm, in reliability terms yanmars have (touch wood) be best - in spares costs both excessive but we found keyparts of watford excellent for volvo and so far have only had to buy normal consumable items for the yanmars- given the choice i would choose a yanmar but in fairness no experience of current model volvos
interesting area, we have had volvo 2002, volvo 2003 and then yanmar 1gm and currently yanmar 3gm, in reliability terms yanmars have (touch wood) be best - in spares costs both excessive but we found keyparts of watford excellent for volvo and so far have only had to buy normal consumable items for the yanmars- given the choice i would choose a yanmar but in fairness no experience of current model volvos
cliff
Active member
[ QUOTE ]
Volvo penta 2020 vs Yanmar 3YM20 both ca.20hp what should i buy
[/ QUOTE ]Neither! look at Beta marine or Bukh. My preference would be Bukh as they are pukka marine engines and run on and on and on and on ....
Spares available through Bukh UK although I don't envisage you needing many if any at all.
----------
Volvo penta 2020 vs Yanmar 3YM20 both ca.20hp what should i buy
[/ QUOTE ]Neither! look at Beta marine or Bukh. My preference would be Bukh as they are pukka marine engines and run on and on and on and on ....
Spares available through Bukh UK although I don't envisage you needing many if any at all.
----------
dickh
New member
As cliff says - if you can get BETA engines, they are cheaper than Volvo or Yanmar and their service is second to none. The Beta(and Nanni) engines are based on a KUBOTA base engine - a Japanese industrial engine - very well regarded in the industrial market.
The Yanmar - if you have to change the sea water impellor it is not an easy job as it is 'back to front' (but the very latest Yanmars may be better), the volvo is immediately in front of you as is the Beta & Nanni.
Also, go for the Fresh Water cooled versions NOT the Raw Water Cooled - the engine will last much longer!
The Yanmar - if you have to change the sea water impellor it is not an easy job as it is 'back to front' (but the very latest Yanmars may be better), the volvo is immediately in front of you as is the Beta & Nanni.
Also, go for the Fresh Water cooled versions NOT the Raw Water Cooled - the engine will last much longer!
