KevB
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Nice views and pretty impressive flying so high above water..
View of the Isle Wight from a quadcopter
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sarabande
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lovely stuff but...
I await with fear a CAA investigation into an accident between a real plane carrying real people and one of those clever devices.
The consequences are so great that we must shirly be on the edge of legislation to control or limit their areas of operation
I await with fear a CAA investigation into an accident between a real plane carrying real people and one of those clever devices.
The consequences are so great that we must shirly be on the edge of legislation to control or limit their areas of operation
Firefly625
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rustybarge
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Totally professional filming, very impressive; good enough for tv....
...But the ending isn't as good as the one i just posted!
KevB
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Where did you post it. I'm guessing your ending...
rustybarge
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Play the last bit right to the end....
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?394416-Drone-video-techniquesgjgm
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The BMFA will have been working on this with CAA and their members insurers. You have been able to fly helicopters,gliders, glo planes, jets, rockets etc..I suspect with many of these there is a certain degree of Darwinism, for the model, at least
The CAA already has numerous legal requirements on "models"
http://www.bmfa.org/News/NewsPage/tabid/93/ArticleID/2050/Default.aspx
KevB
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Play the last bit right to the end....
Ah, yes. I see. You're right. Yours has a much better ending.
adey
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One I did the other day..
rustybarge
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sarabande
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I am in two minds about these aircraft. Excellent and inspiring videos,a nd very very useful for surveying, press, and recreational use.
But so many conflicts, identifiable in the above links, with the rules:
4) The person in charge must not fly the SUA:
a) in Class A, C, D or E airspace unless permission of the appropriate air traffic control unit
has been obtained;
b) within an aerodrome traffic zone during the notified hours of watch of the air traffic
control unit (if any) at that aerodrome unless permission of any such air traffic control
unit has been obtained;
c) at a height of more than 400 feet above the surface;
d) over or within 150 metres of any congested area;
e) over or within 150 metres of an organised open-air assembly of more than 1,000 persons;
f) within 50 metres of any vessel, vehicle or structure which is not under the control of the
person in charge of the aircraft;
g) within 50 metres of any other person, apart from the competent observer, except when
taking off or landing; or
h) within 30 metres of any other person, apart from the competent observer, other
adjacent model operators, or any model flying club members, during take-off or landing.
Or have I read it out of context or without the benefit of specialist knowledge ?
But so many conflicts, identifiable in the above links, with the rules:
4) The person in charge must not fly the SUA:
a) in Class A, C, D or E airspace unless permission of the appropriate air traffic control unit
has been obtained;
b) within an aerodrome traffic zone during the notified hours of watch of the air traffic
control unit (if any) at that aerodrome unless permission of any such air traffic control
unit has been obtained;
c) at a height of more than 400 feet above the surface;
d) over or within 150 metres of any congested area;
e) over or within 150 metres of an organised open-air assembly of more than 1,000 persons;
f) within 50 metres of any vessel, vehicle or structure which is not under the control of the
person in charge of the aircraft;
g) within 50 metres of any other person, apart from the competent observer, except when
taking off or landing; or
h) within 30 metres of any other person, apart from the competent observer, other
adjacent model operators, or any model flying club members, during take-off or landing.
Or have I read it out of context or without the benefit of specialist knowledge ?
gjgm
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No..well, what is shoestring !
There are specialist companies who can make them for you, but the heavier the payload, the more expensive it all gets, and for quality, the more dampening you need. A lightweight set up is here (£3.5k ish). Want something bigger, you might need to ask the price !
http://www.quadcopters.co.uk/droidworx-cx4-ready-to-fly-with-gps-323-p.asp
You can build a Go Pro platform for a few hundred quid, the camera gimbal £100+, and the camera; or buy a ready package for £700+.
Of course, you need to be able to fly the thing; it wont help having £5k of equipment up there (temporarily!), if you cant fly smoothly.
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KevB
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i bought my young son a cheap £70 quadcopter with built in video/still camera and although not up to the quality above still gives very good, smooth video. I'll upload some for comparison.
SlimRick
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I ordered this a couple of weeks ago:
http://www.heliguy.com/Quadcopter/DJI-Phantom/DJI-Phantom-2-Zenmuse-H3-3D-Combo/
For around a grand all in it seems to produce some excellent footage, and the gimball does a great job of keeping the camera steady and looking where it's supposed to be looking. As for easy to fly - my 6 year old and my 13 year old can both do a great job of it.
http://www.heliguy.com/Quadcopter/DJI-Phantom/DJI-Phantom-2-Zenmuse-H3-3D-Combo/
For around a grand all in it seems to produce some excellent footage, and the gimball does a great job of keeping the camera steady and looking where it's supposed to be looking. As for easy to fly - my 6 year old and my 13 year old can both do a great job of it.
gjgm
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These I think are regulations for small models .under 7.5 (llb or kg, cant recall), or maybe the insurance terms.
My point was that people have been flying all sorts of models for decades, and unfortunatley there have been fatalities. And an aweful lot of seriously hurt fingers as any model plane flyer will admit..Stick a digit into a prop turning and it makes a bit of a mess.
Sure, we now get newer concepts due to the development of electronics and lithium batteries. But you have been able to buy a 1.5m very fast plane for decades and go out and cause mayhem; I am only saying the drones maybe a new model concept and maybe with some newer risks, but the hobby has always been there. In fact crashing a 100mph model into a crowd has happened....
Still, plenty of people do have skills https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMrUuRL7vBg
As regards the video and your points...hmm, well do you know anybody who drives according to the highway code? You can put in the rules, but I guess they get enforced depending on the incidents?
My point was that people have been flying all sorts of models for decades, and unfortunatley there have been fatalities. And an aweful lot of seriously hurt fingers as any model plane flyer will admit..Stick a digit into a prop turning and it makes a bit of a mess.
Sure, we now get newer concepts due to the development of electronics and lithium batteries. But you have been able to buy a 1.5m very fast plane for decades and go out and cause mayhem; I am only saying the drones maybe a new model concept and maybe with some newer risks, but the hobby has always been there. In fact crashing a 100mph model into a crowd has happened....
Still, plenty of people do have skills https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMrUuRL7vBg
As regards the video and your points...hmm, well do you know anybody who drives according to the highway code? You can put in the rules, but I guess they get enforced depending on the incidents?
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gjgm
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Absolutely..it just depends on what quality you want.
Of course, it neednt be a quad, though they have certain flight characteristics that can be useful. You can use an rc plane/glider too as the mule.
There are alot of other cameras to the gopro.. the advantage is that there are often more accesories for that camera.
RCtimer.com (on the far side of the world) have alot of gear, but here are companies locally too.
adey
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To get good footage using an SLR you're looking at about £6,000.
A gopro is much lighter and therefore cheaper to lift. The footage they produce is also more forgiving. I built mine a few years ago but these days the DJI (chinese) stuff is so good and easy to set up, that's the way to go and why they're growing in popularity.
Here's another one that I shot in 2012 (might bend a few rules.)
I really want to take it to Italy and film the boat...
rustybarge
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Another great video, that would make a fantastic opening on any feature film....
Hmmmm, can you get actors to work on a 'share of the profits' only basis, or do you have to pay a basic wage?
Hmmmm, can you get actors to work on a 'share of the profits' only basis, or do you have to pay a basic wage?
yesod
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yes, but thats pretty normal for you.
prv
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I thought the whole point of these things, and what makes them "drones" rather than "model helicopters", is that they are to some extent autonomous? Ie, you say "fly to this point" and they work out the actual control inputs needed to do it.
We had a demo at work where one of our marketing guys was controlling a drone by writing a script for it in advance. The actual language was JavaScript, but conceptually the steps were things like:
Take off
Fly one metre left
Climb two metres higher
Go three metres back
Land.
Not piloting as such at all.
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