VHF. Who speaks first on the working channel?

The person with thick sailing gloves on who presses the wrong button and gets the wrong working channel ... as he curses the tiddly little buttons on the VHF!! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
I always follow the Coastguard procedure. I call them, they suggest a channel, I acknowledge. switch channel and stand by...... ie it is their turn next.
 
It is the person who nominates the new channel who becomes the new controller. Thus the tightest it can be is:


joe on ch 16: fred, joe over
fred on ch16: joe, fred go to six nine over
joe on ch16: six nine

fred on ch69: joe, fred, blither blither?
 
Called party usually.

You initiate the call, they nominate working channel, both go to that channel and they start the call there. (not sure if it really matters though unless talking to the CG.
 
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I always follow the Coastguard procedure

[/ QUOTE ] But in that case don't they ask you to change channel and stand-by?

The original question is one I have often wondered about. Also should you acknowledge the request to change channel on 16 before changing. That was something you more or less had to do in the days when VHF sets were only fitted with a limited range of channels .... Oh yes they were!
 
If it goes pear shaped, or somebody in particular wants to control the start of the next conversation (such as coastguard) then you can always use 'sand by on' or 'standing by on' etc. Without using these words I was taught that the one called on 16 was then the caller on the working channel, having nominated it.
 
Coastguard is a special case as they always become the calling station regardless of who initiated the call.


Otherwise it is the person who nominates the new channel who becomes the controller on the new channel. In most cases, if done properly, that means the called party becomes the new controller and the original caller stands-by on the new channel.

But if the new channel is not called for immediately, it can be the other one. It is actually very simple and logical!
 
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If it goes pear shaped, or somebody in particular wants to control the start of the next conversation (such as coastguard) then you can always use 'sand by on' or 'standing by on' etc. Without using these words I was taught that the one called on 16 was then the caller on the working channel, having nominated it.

[/ QUOTE ]Is that not what I said?
 
A simple rule I was given is that the call control ping-pongs between the two parties i.e.

A calls B on CH16
B answers on CH16 and nominates working CH (+ "over")
A confirms working CH (+ "out")
[both parties change to working CH]
B opens conversation to A on working CH
either party terminates call with "out"
other party confirms with "out".

A.
 
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Is that not what I said?

[/ QUOTE ]You're back for more punishment then /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
How does the callee know which channel to suggest?

I always thought the original caller decided on the working channel, having first checked it out to see that nobody else was on it?
 
Luck really. Remember that you may only be hearing one side of a conversation, so quickly checking say 06 beforehand may not mean that it is free when you come to want to use it. Not much point checking in my mind.
 
Your instuctor should have covered radio procedure when you took your exam. Might be worth a quick refresher course.
I think I could do with some revision to my notes for DSC operation, I use it so infrequently I would probably get it wrong now.
 
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