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Re: Get of the high horse .... having gone back to Ofcom site

Unfortunately the spectrum has to be managed effectively.
It is a very finite resource.
If you didnt licence then it would be a general free for all and chaos would reign.
Imagine not being able to watch your TV because some company had brought out wireless access points on the same frequencies??

Steve.
 
Re: Get of the high horse .... having gone back to Ofcom site

Also from the site you link to (which then links to the "consultation" document) it says:

"6. How is it going to change?

From 1 October 2006, Ofcom will:

issue ship radio licences that are valid for the life of the vessel, removing the requirement for radio users to purchase a licence each year;

provide a web-based licensing service as an alternative to the postal service;

issue electronic licences to users online, free of charge;

require licensees to confirm their licence details at least once every 10 years; and

dispense with the requirement to display the licence disc; however, a copy of the licence must be kept on board the vessel.

Ofcom will continue to make paper licences available for applicants who do not have access to, or prefer not to use the internet. There may be an administration fee for this."

which would suggest (because it says "Ofcom will") that they have already decided before the end of the "consultation" period (whichever one you choose /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif).
 
Re: Get of the high horse .... having gone back to Ofcom site

I wonder what policy guidelines they infringed first time round, to need to issue another consultation document so similar to the first, or did they just screw up and do it twice due to key staff having left, and the dept not knowing what had been done previously? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Re: Get of the high horse .... having gone back to Ofcom site

I don't dispute that the spectrum has to be managed, just that there is no benefit in managing the end user.

You only sell computers that operate on the allocated frequency and you make sure that the companies that provide wireless access points only transmit on that frequency. Likewise mobile phones.

We don't need personal licences for our wi fi computers or phones, I would suggest there is no justification in having licences for our ships radios - this system was set up when they were exactly that, ships radios, now they are just a bit of communication kit for the average leisure boater.
 
Re: Get of the high horse .... having gone back to Ofcom site

Probably just needed to meet some government audit baseline in "consultation" to ensure that they achieve their perfomance related pay targets /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
Re: Get of the high horse .... having gone back to Ofcom site

this system was set up when they were exactly that, ships radios, now they are just a bit of communication kit for the average leisure boater.

You may wish to do a bit of research on that and come back with the answer.

With beliefs like that it is no wonder there are so many radio checks and mindless gabberings on the radio on the Solent (according to many posts on here) if that is what people there believe. Errr, where do you sail?

John
 
Re: Get of the high horse .... having gone back to Ofcom site

Which bit are you disputing John, ships radio or bit of communication kit for the average leisure boater?

Perhaps you might like to share your infinite wisdom with us, or do you genuinely not know the answer to your question?

I sail the Solent as you well know, but can't remember the last time I transmitted and seldom switch the thing on for just the reasons that you say - mobile phone is much more practical.
 
Re: Get of the high horse .... having gone back to Ofcom site

Perhaps you might like to share your infinite wisdom with us

Thanks for the complement.

I suggest that most others will have understood perfectly what I was referring to and that is all that matters.

John
 
Re: Get of the high horse .... having gone back to Ofcom site

On radio - thank goodness, no /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif.

John
 
That\'ll teach me ...

Saw title of doc ... it's same as the 2005 one - which incidentally as Brendan says later on is still viewable !!

As another also says - nothing is cast in stone yet - yes the doc I used says Ofcom Decision .... but it doesn't say actually will be instigated.

All of it is still proposed and consultative, even though consultation dates are well gone now. It wouldn't surprise me that when it does drop into place it will be different again. I'm sure some Civil Servant will have his little play.

Anyway - anyone who lets his licence lapse ... the goes for a free one - sure his ID will come up on the database - then he'll have to explain the period of no cover ... possible fine ? Before and after - as its an International req't to have Ships Radio Licence - is fineable .... and a lot more than a 20 !
Just mentioning it .... so they get you anyway - if they want.
 
Consultation closes: 16|05|2006

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All of it is still proposed and consultative, even though consultation dates are well gone now. It wouldn't surprise me that when it does drop into place it will be different again. I'm sure some Civil Servant will have his little play.


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flippin eck Nige, do you ever shuddup, stop talking and actually read? Consultation is still active

Read and go consult, you can still input if you'd like, up until the 16th. I gave you both of the direct links, so you cannot say you were ignorant this time, so guess you are just spouting off?

Just in case you missed both of them first time around
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/internetlicence/
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/src/
 
Re: Get of the high horse .... having gone back to Ofcom site

Hi Steve.

I would enjoy doing that and have sent you a PM.

John
 
Re: Consultation closes: 16|05|2006

Agreed that consultation is still active ... I was referring to the original request and form that was active before and led to the 89 quoted responses that Ofcom itself uses in its evaluation. I apologise for not making that clear. Late night and bad wording on my part.
 
Re: That\'ll teach me ...

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....Anyway - anyone who lets his licence lapse ... the goes for a free one - sure his ID will come up on the database - then he'll have to explain the period of no cover ... possible fine ? Before and after - as its an International req't to have Ships Radio Licence - is fineable .... and a lot more than a 20 !
Just mentioning it .... so they get you anyway - if they want.

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Only if you have a radio fitted. My licence runs out on the 27/9 and I'm looking for a new DSC set, probably at SIBS, so I will just take the old one out towards the end of September and not put the new one in until I get a new licence - the £20 I save for 3 days can go towards the new set /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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