Very Intreresting Design Boat: Conam Chorum 60

[Boater On Thames]

While continuing my next boat hunting, I found an interesting design Italian boat Conam Chorum 60. What a different hull design. Somehow I kind of like it. But I can not find any official info or website about this brand. Do you know it? Also I found it has so many little caps (more than 20) on the hull. I saw one or two of those caps on a normal boat. My current boat only has one cap on the bow. Do you know what are those caps for? Why this boat needs more than 20 of them? Many thanks.

 

[Seastoke]

It’s from the fugly yard.

 

[dunedin]

It looks like the last 2 metres at the stern are a late tack on - and don’t match colour or style wise.

 

[Boater On Thames]

@seastoke Can't find any info about fugly yard.

 

[Seastoke]

They use fgrp to build and fman engines .

 

[Portofino]

The “ caps “ are all exits for sinks , bilge pumps , drains etc etc .
Its a poor mans imho way of building .Just drill a hole next to said item and use a cap .
Alternative is to run inside common manifolds that ideally end at the stern .Further more under the water line - cocked obviously.
Thats a shocker re the Al Capone sweeping his Tommy gun along the hull …..so many holes .He was a good shot kept it straight and above the WL on that boat . . Big magazine

I know I will get flamed for this but with Itama .

From an exhaust thread .The pic shows the port manifold internally with all the pipe “ ins “ One the blue line is obviously a cockpit drain from directly above .
Point is no straight route to the hull and a “ cap “ .

I know you have healthy thirst for boat knowledge so do not mind posting this .


No caps here ^^^ .

See the three holes above the anodes .
Left one is where that manifold runs out .Right one for RHS .
Centre is black water exit .
The two toilets have one under the hull for direct to sea ……you can see one LHS hull .But thats it no hull pepper potting with a machine gun .
Sorry using Itama pics guys its the best example and explanation of an alternative .Sure a few others do the same ?

 

[Momac]

Perhaps its designed for practicality rather than looks from the outside ?
conam it - chorum special 60

 

[Portofino]

The under water exhaust ( if that’s what the hole is ) looks wrong so close to the props .
Another case of “ just drill another hole right there mate next to it “

 

[Boater On Thames]

I mean those stainless cover caps. Don't know what's its correct name. You will find it usually on the hull of the bow only one or two of them. But this boat has more than 20 all over the hull above the waterline.

 

[Bajansailor]

I mean those stainless cover caps. Don't know what's its correct name. You will find it usually on the hull of the bow only one or two of them. But this boat has more than 20 all over the hull above the waterline.

They are the ones that Porto is referring to in post #6 above.
They are little cowls over the through hull fittings for discharging various liquids (bilge, sinks, etc) overboard.
They might also be drains for the side decks, so that you don't get streaks running down the hull if the water running off is dirty?

 

[BruceK]

Thats shocking tbh. With the exception of the black water tank every drain, drainage, scupper etc on mine leads to a single thru hull master seacock with each line terminating on to it with it's own ball valve. Looks a bit like a Christmas tree but everything is in one place.

 

[Boater On Thames]

Any comments on the wide-body design? This is the point that I like about it. I like it has two stairs walk to the flybridge, then the flybridge just one step connected to the said walk and the bow. This is so different design. Good or bad idea? Thanks.

 

[petem]

@seastoke Can't find any info about fugly yard.

I'm afraid "fugly" is an English play on words.

"F***ing Ugly" !

 

[petem]

Any comments on the wide-body design? This is the point that I like about it. I like it has two stairs walk to the flybridge, then the flybridge just one step connected to the said walk and the bow. This is so different design. Good or bad idea? Thanks.

Apart from the fact that it's ugly, it could make alongside mooring difficult. To be effective, those fenders will need to be hung a lot lower down. Of course, the advantage is that you get a wider saloon if you spend a lot of time inside.

It's not a new idea and it comes back into fashion every now and again - see Princess X95 Yacht | Super Flybridge | Princess Motor Yacht Sales .

 

[markc]

The stern moulding is horrific! I suspect it had a smaller bolt on section when it was built - a lot of Italian boats did in this era, but it was changed to give a bigger bathing platform. I would give the boat a swerve on this element alone.

 

[Portofino]

Aesthetics aside .

It’s got a certain charm .
I have seen a few Conan s they are long + thin patrol boaty hulls .
You don’t see the outside when you are on them .Interestingly it’s 4,3 M beam the hull hence the “ wide body “ no side decks design .
A lot of boat for the € .
Looks pretty well finished ( Rodriquez / Managusta ) interior .Like nice chunky metal SS port holes .
As mentioned the stern at first glance , you go to autopilot and urgh !
But it’s practical.Two ladders for the sea , two steps up to cockpit .Nice handy stern mooring gear ie switches in the sides not toe stubbers on the deck .Teak looks solid not veneered .Tender looks like a animal giving birth , but how handy to single handedly launch recover ?
Huge up stairs area of which very little overhanging .
Large front helm bench the whole family can sit on the “ front seat “ driving .

Like the Pug …..with time the fugly ness grows on you and in a strange sort of way becomes attractive .
Doesn’t need walking , tiny poos , does not drop hair , does not need grooming , does not drool , cost 8ugger all to feed etc etc .
Has a lot going for it ……if you know your dogs .

In this case boats .

Lateral engine access as well

 

[markc]

Aesthetics aside .
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It’s got a certain charm .
I have seen a few Conan s they are long + thin patrol boaty hulls .
You don’t see the outside when you are on them .Interestingly it’s 4,3 M beam the hull hence the “ wide body “ no side decks design .
A lot of boat for the € .
Looks pretty well finished ( Rodriquez / Managusta ) interior .Like nice chunky metal SS port holes .
As mentioned the stern at first glance , you go to autopilot and urgh !
But it’s practical.Two ladders for the sea , two steps up to cockpit .Nice handy stern mooring gear ie switches in the sides not toe stubbers on the deck .Teak looks solid not veneered .Tender looks like a animal giving birth , but how handy to single handedly launch recover ?
Huge up stairs area of which very little overhanging .
Large front helm bench the whole family can sit on the “ front seat “ driving .

Like the Pug …..with time the fugly ness grows on you and in a strange sort of way becomes attractive .
Doesn’t need walking , tiny poos , does not drop hair , does not need grooming , does not drool , cost 8ugger all to feed etc etc .
Has a lot going for it ……if you know your dogs .

In this case boats .

Lateral engine access as well

looking at the video, maybe it left the factory with the mis-matched stern moulding, in which case I'd be less worried and would investigate if some well matched paint would make it look better

 

[BartW]

Any comments on the wide-body design? This is the point that I like about it. I like it has two stairs walk to the flybridge, then the flybridge just one step connected to the said walk and the bow. This is so different design. Good or bad idea? Thanks.

a wider body design you can also find on Ferreti's from that period, those are worth a look !
as posted above, the stern modif looks awfull,

those caps are a 'awfull model" to cover those drain points,

my boat has also quite a few, but those are part of the thru hull fitting and much more compact
apart for liquid drains, they are vent openings for the fuel tanks,, black water, grey and fresh water tanks ...

 

[PowerYachtBlog]

That is actually the 54 Chorum model, 60 model is the same and recognizable by the round port holes.
Its a wide body, and Conam thought about it way before Jeanneau of Beaneteau Group did and MBY called it the innovative boat of the year.
Conam of the Ciminio brothers founded in 1980 was always an innovative yard and in 1988 it introduced its new 48 Chorum flagship.
Cimino will sell Conam but sill manage it to fast ferry ship builder Rodriguez in 2002 and will close its doors in 2010.
He opened another yard of which I cant remember the name right now.

When the 48 was introduced in 1988 I was impressed by its saloon spaces and its spaceship modern looks. It was an innovative design.
The 54 introduced in 1994 followed the theme with more impressive spaces.

Conam was always innovative but I really like there open boats too, I think the 52 then morphed into 58, and 46 which became a 50 are still good lookers.
As innovation goes also look at the Futura 50 Hard Top below from 1986, and the Synthesi 40 also was ahead of the game having a semi garage in a boat of twelve in length way before everyone thought about it.
The hulls of most Conams are a medium vee design, but I did helm a 36 Lupo di Mare in close to one meter wave and cannot say the boat was bad.

 

[PowerYachtBlog]

a wider body design you can also find on Ferreti's from that period, those are worth a look !
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Ferretti never did a wide body design. The Americans started doing wide body in early eighties, I think the first was a Hatteras 53 Extended Deckhouse (that is how they called Widebody) launched in 1983 but I might be mistaken.
Beside Conam the other wide body design from Italy was the Alfamarine Cronos 83 launched in 1983 and designed by Harrauer and Levi.