Velox

Hurricane

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In previous posts, I have reported that I was trying Velox on JW's underwater metalwork.
Velox is the only treatment that I couldnt find any bad reports when I googled so I opted this season to try it out.

I had a particularly tough test for the treatment as well - a trip from Sant Carles on Mainland Spain to Malta and back - a round trip in excess of 1600 nautical miles. If the Velox could stay on the props and shafts etc over that journey, it would satisfy most leisure users.

Well, I'm afraid that the simple answer is that it didnt. I made sure that the treatment was applied properly - even doing some of the work myself. The propellers, shafts and rudders of any high planing motor boat are in an extremely harsh enviroment for any coating to survive.

Anyway, lets look at the facts.

Velox comes with a special primer which indicated on the tin that it is an "etching primer". This means to me that it will adhere itself to the metal by etching into the surface. To help, the instructions say that you have to sand the surfaces with a course abrasive paper. I did all this and made a special effort not to touch the surface after it had been sanded. We also applied the primer immediatly after sanding so as not to get any oxidisation. The Velox A/F itself stuck to the primer very well.

Anyway, here' are a few pics of the results.

Props, shafts and rudders before

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And then 1600 nautical miles later.

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So - what have I done since.

We lifted the boat last Monday and then spent a few hours removing all the Velox from the props, shafts, trim tabs and rudders. The Velox had stuck prety well to the P brackets so I left it on them. A few months ago, I had a conversation with a very helpful guy at Blakes and he suggested an alternative treatment so this is what I'm trying this time. Blakes/Hempel produce a two part epoxy based primer with a totally different approach to the "etching" primer of Velox. Its a bit like applying treacle and goes hard within about 30 mins.

Anyway, we have put two coats of this two part primer onto nicely cleaned and abrased metalwork.

See here

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Finally, we painted the whole lot with some normal "Hard Racing" antifoul.

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JW is likely to have a much more relaxed time for the rest of this season and I just wanted something that keeps any growth to a minimum.

I'll keep you all posted but I think that the prop treatment that we have now is very common - especially on mainland Spain.

Its just a shame that the Velox didnt work. Probably something to do with 2400 HP - it must be a very aggressive environment.

It would be interesting to see if displacement motorboats or sailing boats can make it stick.
 
I don't understand why you find it necessary to anti foul props and shafts. I have never done so and haven't had any fouling whatsoever. My boat doesn't get heavy usage. Last year i only completed 40 hours.
 
If you'd have seen some previous pictures of their underwater gear from these med boys it would all become clear!

Some of the growth was unreal. Looked liked they sat for 10 years. I reckon local antifoulers must go around at night puting stuff in the water around their boats then rubbing their hands together. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
 
I would be very interested, I get bl@@dy dreadful fouling (Isle of Wight) on me props, I only used waterproof grease last time. I too am considering painting the props, shafts and rudders next time. I'm using shogun 033 erodable on the rest of the boat and if that works on the hull then I will do the rest next time.

I spose its just finding what works i your area
 
Interesting post Mike, thanks.

I had plans to try something epoxy based, but ran out of time, so used the spray can stuff, on the basis that its easy to apply and will at least stop the growth until the first big trip. I used Blakes primer and then Mille Drive on the stbd gear, and Trilux Prop o Drev primer and antifoul on the port.

A day or two later I came out in a rash across my entire face, neck and arms, which had not been covered by my t-shirt, and the airborne particles of a/f had landed on me and killed the skin! After a week of scratching and applying hydrocortisone it has nearly gone as the dead skin has been replaced from underneath. Fortunately I was wearing goggles, but I wasn't wearing a mask so god knows what it has done to my lungs.

So word of caution to anyone using the spray antifoul, stand upwind of the bits you're spraying!
 
A/f paint is nasty stuff. The last time I applied the stuff myself, I ended up in hospital with both eyes badly inflamed by getting specks of paint in them. Stupidly, I removed my goggles occasionally to see better what I was doing
 
That kind of fouling is excessive even for the Med but it is common to experience bad fouling of any exposed sterngear in a matter of weeks. A boat can easily lose 6-8kts speed in that time. This is unlike Northern Europe where hull fouling is more of an issue that sterngear fouling
 
Thanks for the report, Hurricane, which is very disappointing. I had hoped that you had found the answer to our Med sterngear fouling problems. Have you sent the pics to Matteo at Marlin? I'm hoping that my Velox treatment performs better over a more normal Med boating season but I'll report in a few weeks/months
 
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