Urgently required - Single lever Morse engine control with less than 8" handle

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Hi,

My engine installation has been running for 2 1/2 years and marches from one engineering cock up to another :

Firstly the original single lever Morse controller (see pic below - not my boat) is deemed to be unusable. It worked fine in the old engine installation but for some reason, not fully understood to me, it cannot be used with the new Nanni engine because the throttle engagement cannot be delayed for long enough after the gear engagement. The engineer says "it's worn".

Just now the engineer phones up and says that the replacement he's ordered in is too long to fit the recess in the cockpit which it's mounted in. This is after he's cut the mounting hole in the recess to fit the new control ! He can't cut the handle of the new controller shorter because the neutral engagement button is on the end.

So I urgently need a Morse engine control that has a handle shorter than 8" long. And ideally with a pull-for-neutral button that is not mounted on the end of the handle.

Any suggestions will be received with abject gratitude,

Boo2

The following picture is not from my boat but is the identical model of control. My boat has the control handle fitted in a recessed niche in the cockpit hence the size limitation.

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No idea of length, but the vast majority of morse controls used on boats have the neutral lock as a button concentric with the pivot. So worst case, you should be able to buy one and cut it down.

I once had the plastic/rubber knob on the end come off in my hand while berthing (smacked the charter boat into a pontoon, fortunately without damage), so you might even be able to remove it deliberately and then glue it back onto the shortened handle.

Pete
 
Have a look at the Vetus control. It is very much like the one in your photo. As Pete says many controls have the button concentric with the pivot or a separate button in the housing.

Edit Just checked the handle is 200mm from the centre.
 
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Hi Boo2, Volvo make this sort of control, with a short handle, I've got one on my boat. The neutral button is at the centre of the pivot. The orientation of the handle can easily be changed. I would think that most engine control levers of
this type would do for you if they cover the hole up. They seem to be fairly interchangeable. Look at Vetus as well, they
have a good range of parts.
 
Spyro said:
Something like the Teleflex 700SS. has the gear neutral button in the middle. Handle length is 195mm which in old money is just under 8 inches. Can't believe your "engineer" wouldn't know this. http://www.seastarsolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/mcda16int-700_ss.pdf
Teleflex is now Seastarsolutions.
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Yes, after I posted here I did a search and found loads of controls with the neutral button at the pivot, why my engineer didn't pick one of those is a mystery...

Tranona said:
Have a look at the Vetus control. It is very much like the one in your photo. As Pete says many controls have the button concentric with the pivot or a separate button in the housing.

Edit Just checked the handle is 200mm from the centre.
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Hi Tranona,

The Vetus handles look good and I have posted links to my engineer. As I said above, I have no clue why he needs to be told. I suggested the Vetus SISCO as that looks like it could readily have the handle shortened but the SICO looks shorter overall. I will let the man decide what will work.

This whole thing has been so frustrating, I repainted the old control and gave it back to the engineer over a year ago. Why he couldn't tell me it was no good back then, and ideally before making holes in the boat, I have no clue. Never again...

Boo2
 
Boo2 said:
Yes, that is what was fitted to the boat when I bought it. Worked fine with the Thorneycroft engine, I have no idea why it's no good with the Nanni but there you go.



Thanks Pampoas, have replied by PM.

Boo2
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Because he does not understand that the spring mounted securing sadle is there to take up the lever movement from idle to neutral either way
Try setting it up with the throttle closed at idle / in gear detent not neutral as it is now
 
scottie said:
Because he does not understand that the spring mounted securing sadle is there to take up the lever movement from idle to neutral either way
Try setting it up with the throttle closed at idle / in gear detent not neutral as it is now
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Hi, sorry but I did not understand what you are saying, can you be a bit more explicit please ?

Thanks,

Boo2
 
It is down to geometry
what you are doing is using one lever to operate 2 cables
The gear cable works off a second lever which is driven by a gear inside the mech box and is straight forward
The throttle is an extension (or shorter if pushing to open) of the operating lever and is only wanted to operate between the in gear detent position and full throttle but when you move the operating lever it will still move the connection point there for the control has a spring loaded connection for the cable anchorage which absorbs the extra
a similar example is how high the sun rises during the day
It's easier to understand looking at the control
 
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