steve2k
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Can someone explain to a novice the different types of mooring there are please?
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Types of mooring
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snowleopard
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apart from tying to a pontoon, there are two basic types: the swinging mooring is where you tie the bow to a buoy and swing around it according to wind and tide and the trot where you tie between two buoys and always point the same way.
trots are usually for a string of boats so you share your bow and stern buoys with other boats. it is your responsibility to arrange that the distance between your two buoys is correct, leaving a rope joining them when you're not there.
assume you weren't interested in the technicalities of putting down your own mooring?
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trots are usually for a string of boats so you share your bow and stern buoys with other boats. it is your responsibility to arrange that the distance between your two buoys is correct, leaving a rope joining them when you're not there.
assume you weren't interested in the technicalities of putting down your own mooring?
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jhr
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Not quite sure what you mean, but I'll try:
Swinging mooring: normally in the middle of an estuary or harbour; chain attached to heavy lump or lumps on the seabed; boat is attached to mooring at the bow and swings to and fro with wind/tide/current. Read <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.ybw.com/cgi-bin/forums/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=pbo&Number=432829&part=1>this post</A> for learned debate about exactly what kind of mooring to have where.
Fore and aft mooring: as above, but boat doesn't swing because it's attached to a mooring at back and front.
Drying/half drying mooring: as above, but boat rests on the bottom (usually mud or sand) for some period of the tide, therefore restricting access to certain times of day.
Pile mooring: large wood or metal posts set into sea bed, boat is moored in between two of them. No swinging ('cos attached fore and aft as above).
Pontoon Mooring: floating platform, normally secured to piles (see above) with boat attached alongside. If there is direct access to shore, this becomes a "Marina Mooring", in which case the price triples. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif
Hope this helps.
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Swinging mooring: normally in the middle of an estuary or harbour; chain attached to heavy lump or lumps on the seabed; boat is attached to mooring at the bow and swings to and fro with wind/tide/current. Read <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.ybw.com/cgi-bin/forums/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=pbo&Number=432829&part=1>this post</A> for learned debate about exactly what kind of mooring to have where.
Fore and aft mooring: as above, but boat doesn't swing because it's attached to a mooring at back and front.
Drying/half drying mooring: as above, but boat rests on the bottom (usually mud or sand) for some period of the tide, therefore restricting access to certain times of day.
Pile mooring: large wood or metal posts set into sea bed, boat is moored in between two of them. No swinging ('cos attached fore and aft as above).
Pontoon Mooring: floating platform, normally secured to piles (see above) with boat attached alongside. If there is direct access to shore, this becomes a "Marina Mooring", in which case the price triples. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif
Hope this helps.
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steve2k
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Perfect, that's exactly the answer I was after.
On an semi-related point.
Is there a generally held view on mooring your boat vs. taking it away on a trailer?
Is it worth the risk of damage on a trailer and the pain of putting it in and out of the water to save a few pounds on mooring, or is the argument more complicated than that?
Thanks again
Steve
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On an semi-related point.
Is there a generally held view on mooring your boat vs. taking it away on a trailer?
Is it worth the risk of damage on a trailer and the pain of putting it in and out of the water to save a few pounds on mooring, or is the argument more complicated than that?
Thanks again
Steve
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boatless
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For a claimed novice that's a very perceptive question. Can only say that whenever I've launched any sailing boat from a trailer, and rigged it, something gets broken. Usually nothing particularly expensive, but always neccessary!
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jimbouy
Active member
Launching from a trailer could save money. And allows you to sail different areas.
Time taken to launch will depend on the boat, and you will get better at it.
My pontoon berth allows me to walk straight on and sail with in 15 mins
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Time taken to launch will depend on the boat, and you will get better at it.
My pontoon berth allows me to walk straight on and sail with in 15 mins
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jimbouy
Active member
Oh, yes. A trailer that's in and out of salt water will need maintaining.
Do you have a car that can deal with the towing and launching?
All things to consider
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Do you have a car that can deal with the towing and launching?
All things to consider
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jhr
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And another thing.....
A boat left in the water will need annual antifouling and will still get a weedy/slimy bottom.
Moorings can break loose and insurers can be rather luke warm about them (esp. swinging moorings).
Getting to and from a mooring in a dinghy is one of the most dangerous parts of any boating trip - but still an infinitesimal risk in the great scheme of things.
In case this sounds like I'm in favour of trailer boating, I keep my boat on a swinging mooring! Infinitely preferable i.m.h.o.
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A boat left in the water will need annual antifouling and will still get a weedy/slimy bottom.
Moorings can break loose and insurers can be rather luke warm about them (esp. swinging moorings).
Getting to and from a mooring in a dinghy is one of the most dangerous parts of any boating trip - but still an infinitesimal risk in the great scheme of things.
In case this sounds like I'm in favour of trailer boating, I keep my boat on a swinging mooring! Infinitely preferable i.m.h.o.
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steve2k
New member
Re: And another thing.....
stupid question:
How do you get to your boat if it's on a swinging mooring?
Do you need a rowboat, does someone take you there?
Thanks
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stupid question:
How do you get to your boat if it's on a swinging mooring?
Do you need a rowboat, does someone take you there?
Thanks
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jimbouy
Active member
Re: And another thing.....
Most likely a rowing/motor boat.
Technical term... tender.
Some places may offer a harbour taxi service. but a tender would be usefull anyway.
I'm on a pontoon but have an inflatable as well
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Most likely a rowing/motor boat.
Technical term... tender.
Some places may offer a harbour taxi service. but a tender would be usefull anyway.
I'm on a pontoon but have an inflatable as well
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steve2k
New member
Re: And another thing.....
It seems that a sensible (i.e. cheap but practical) option is to go for a bilge keel boat and a drying mooring.
Maybe I should look into the cost of moorings first. Any ideas how I can find out from my desk?
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It seems that a sensible (i.e. cheap but practical) option is to go for a bilge keel boat and a drying mooring.
Maybe I should look into the cost of moorings first. Any ideas how I can find out from my desk?
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jhr
Well-known member
Mooring information/availability
Not easy! I suspect your best bet is to post on here or Scuttlebutt, specifiying where you want to keep your boat and the kind of mooring you are after. Much will depend on where you're thinking of keeping her, but most of the cheaper moorings belong to sailing clubs, local authorities and the like, in which case someone on here will almost certainly be able to point you in the right direction.
Rules of supply and demand tend to apply to pricing - particularly in the Solent /forums/images/icons/frown.gif
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Not easy! I suspect your best bet is to post on here or Scuttlebutt, specifiying where you want to keep your boat and the kind of mooring you are after. Much will depend on where you're thinking of keeping her, but most of the cheaper moorings belong to sailing clubs, local authorities and the like, in which case someone on here will almost certainly be able to point you in the right direction.
Rules of supply and demand tend to apply to pricing - particularly in the Solent /forums/images/icons/frown.gif
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extravert
New member
Dry berthing
Another type not mentioned already (although not strictly mooring) is dry berthing. This is where you keep your boat on land, and when you want to go sailing, you give the boatyard/marina a call, and they plop it into the water for you ready to pick up. After you have finished, they take it out again. Some dry-berthed boats are launched and retrieved while you are there.
There's a lot of this type of berthing at Pwllheli, because of a lack of wet berths and moorings. It's only suitable for small boats that can be launched and retrieved easily.
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Another type not mentioned already (although not strictly mooring) is dry berthing. This is where you keep your boat on land, and when you want to go sailing, you give the boatyard/marina a call, and they plop it into the water for you ready to pick up. After you have finished, they take it out again. Some dry-berthed boats are launched and retrieved while you are there.
There's a lot of this type of berthing at Pwllheli, because of a lack of wet berths and moorings. It's only suitable for small boats that can be launched and retrieved easily.
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jimbouy
Active member
Re: And another thing.....
Sorry for my delay in replying... been sailing for the weekend.
You can get some info via the net but you won't cover all poss.
Do you have an idea of a specific area in mind?
if you do make another post like....
" mooring info for the Gosport area, Please" and do a google search for boat yards and marinas in that area.
But really you will then need to take a weekend trip to the area you have in mind and have a look round.
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Sorry for my delay in replying... been sailing for the weekend.
You can get some info via the net but you won't cover all poss.
Do you have an idea of a specific area in mind?
if you do make another post like....
" mooring info for the Gosport area, Please" and do a google search for boat yards and marinas in that area.
But really you will then need to take a weekend trip to the area you have in mind and have a look round.
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William_H
Well-known member
Hello Steve You ask the question as to whether to leave your boat on a mooring or take it home on a trailer. It is really great to have a trailer and the only way to go for a boat less than 22 feet. A mooring is really good for a quick departure. I recomend you try both and your own lifestyle will show up a preference. I keep my trailer sailer on a swing mooring which makes hoisting sails and departure very easy as is arrival at the mooring. I can get away with leaving the engine home for almost all my sailing and racing. However the boat is home on a trailer at the moment for it's winter refit (antipodes) however I will probably break down and throw it back in the water before winter properly starts. My advice is try it both ways. regards will
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