Two boats im interested in. Views and opinions please.

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UK-WOOZY

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the first is a Colvic Liberator. Interior was professionally fitted out. Engine renewed 1996, regulary serviced. Up for £17000, but owner said he would take my offer of £13000. It all the way in southampton so id have to arrange it to be lorried or sailed back to erith yacht club. the yacht has wheel steering which would be something id like to have but not necessary,

the other yacht

a Jenneau Sundream 28 1988. Engine regularly serviced. All general good condition. but the headline needs sorting which im not fussed about. up for £13000 so could likely get for less. Located Crouch end.

Id need a launch/trailer made up at my club for winter storage too.

thanks
 
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Two very different boats. both cruiser racers with good pedigrees, but the Liberator is a big, powerful boat and a massive step up from the boat you have now.

Easy to sail down for an experienced crew, but a trailer for winter storage would be expensive to make up. Both these boats really require a crane or hoist and a proper storage cradle.
 
Tranona said:
Two very different boats. both cruiser racers with good pedigrees, but the Liberator is a big, powerful boat and a massive step up from the boat you have now.

Easy to sail down for an experienced crew, but a trailer for winter storage would be expensive to make up. Both these boats really require a crane or hoist and a proper storage cradle.
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so you think the Colvic will be far too large for me to sail and a friend. max 2 people usually. So i guess singlehand would be out of the question? 36ft is the largest the club im with accepts due to the swing mooring limit.

I do like the Sun Beam very much. anything id need to look out for?

also my club uses a slipway for launching yachts. all yachts are on trailers and we wait for low tide, get trailer to end of slip, wait for high tide and sail off away from trailer. theres a few 35 footers at the club and one 36. we have a mast crane. not no yacht lift/crane
 
Not too big to sail with a crew of 2 or even singlehanded if you have the experience, but it comes from an age when husky crews were the norm.

You will find lots of threads on single handing boats here and size per se is not an issue, but recognising thee limitations and how to minimise them. I have been doing it most of my sailing life and my last boat was bit bigger than that but not as powerful and equipped for shorthanded crews.

The sundream is a much more sensible boat to move up to. It will probably be more lively than the typical British boat of similar size and lighter built looking at the stats, but I don't have any specific knowledge about it.
 
We're talking about 30 or 40 year old boats here. My worry would be as per Tranona'searlier comment - they are totally different boats - one's a sports bike and ones a Harley-Davidson, if you see what I mean. If it's original equipment then the Colvic will probably be under-winched by today's standards but it could have had any amount of work done and be really easy to sail now - it wouldn't be unmanageable by any stretch but it wasn't designed to be a light and fast "fun to sail" boat whereas the Jeanneau very much was. You'd be far more likely to nip down to the Jeanneau and enjoy a day's or an evening's sail than you would the Colvic, but you'd have a more pleasant and relaxed crossing to Oostende in the Colvic (and not necessarily a slower one) and you'd do it conditions you might not want to in the Jeanneau. You'd probably be a lot happier in the Colvic on a week's holiday with family or friends as well.

Unfortunately for most of us nearly all our sailing tends to be the quick sail rather than the passage or the annual holiday so I would suspect you'd be happier with Jeanneau but it really depends on the type of sailing and boat that you want.
 
Just came across my old post. I went for the Jeanneau in the end. I spent the whole past year since purchase working and getting work done on her. the last thing done is new standing rigging. I had a full survey carried out and all was deemed good. Rigging was original but in good condition but for peice of mind i had it replaced. thanks
 
UK-WOOZY said:
Just came across my old post. I went for the Jeanneau in the end. I spent the whole past year since purchase working and getting work done on her. the last thing done is new standing rigging. I had a full survey carried out and all was deemed good. Rigging was original but in good condition but for peice of mind i had it replaced. thanks
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How has the sailing been?
 
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