Trots, Swinging, Self-Laid - confused!

[gr1mb0]

Think I've sorted the 'first boat' decision process thanks to good advice received here... however, it looks like I underestimated the cost and complexity of keeping the boat anywhere near the water!

Marina berths and dry stacking look to be inordinately expensive compared to the cost of the boat itself (typically £2000 and (way) up.... in proportion for a £100k boat, but not for a £10k one?) -- but 'swing' and 'trot' moorings look better value.

Can anyone tell me what's the difference between these types of moorings, what the pros/cons are -- and any info. on waiting list times etc. I'm thinking Poole, Christchurch (does 'self-laid' mean drop your own concrete block?!) and Lymington are the best options.

...if only it was as simple as 'have boat, let's go and have some fun!'.... I'm learning fast!

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[gjgm]

well, you have to get out to the boat somehow, and if its petrol boat you need to be able to get fuel somewhere. Theres strict laws on refilling cans at petrol stations, and marina petrol is usually about £1 per litre. Then you ll need to antifoul the boat if its kept in the water. Cheapest is usually a trailer, just paying an annual fee to use the slipway(maybe £1-200), followed by paying for storage and slip. On smaller boat ,often under 6.8m its about £6-700 I guess. Check with your local marina. You can just pay for Summer if you can store elsewhere over winter.

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[AJW]

Have a look at Drivers Wharf in Southampton. Storage ashore on trailer and then lift in and out when you want to use the boat at £40 a time if my memory serves. Reduces the hassle factor of launching and you dont need to antifoul the boat. Chap I sold my RIB to keeps it there and he's pretty pleased with the service/deal.

HTH,
AJ

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[BarryH]

Thats a bleedin' ripoff! Where do these people justify their costs. 40 quid to slip it off the trailer! Where I use my boat the slipway fees are 75 quid a year. If I wanted to store the boat there it would be just under 400 quid a year in secure storage with year round access.

I'd keep a boat of that size on a trailer not a mooring. Especially in Poole.Getting to the mooring will be a bit of a pain with dinghy etc. If you want a number of the place I use give me a Pm and I'll let you have it.

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[Deleted User YDKXO]

A swinging mooring is usually a single buoy to which you tie your boat and it 'swings' with the tide. A trot mooring is where the boat is tied fore and aft and therefore cant swing with the tide. Trot moorings are usually timber piles but could be buoys as well. A swinging mooring is less safe than a trot mooring because all the load is taken by just one set of lines and cleats.
I've never heard of a self laid mooring but I guess that means you have to lay your own buoy with a suitable weight or pay somebody to do it
I think you may find it very difficult to get this type of mooring on the S Coast as they are very popular due to rip-off marina charges

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[AJW]

Ah yes but they are not slipping it they are lifting off your trailer with a crane and dropping it in for you. So yer trailer wheel bearings dont get dunked and you dont have to faff around at the slipway. For the chap who bought my RIB it meant he didnt need to invest in a 4x4 to tow around and launch (despite me trying to do him a package deal with the Trooper as well!) Prob'ly didnt make the fact that it was a lift in and out service clear in my original post.

Personally I would go for trailer and slipway but then I had free storage near my house and already had the 4x4.

AJ

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[BarryH]

Ah well lifting is a bit different, specially into salt water. Trailer will stay in better condition. I'm lucky in that I launch into fresh water. Still have the same bearings for the last 6 years. Gone thru a few sets of brake shoes tho, not all due to the dunkings.

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[gjgm]

Re: trailer

not sure i d recommend it, but if you are only using the trailer for launch(and not road) some say you can forget about fixing brakes and bearings etc. Your are only going 50yards anyway....Guess you had better chock the trailer well though....!

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[Wiggo]

Trots (fore and aft bouys on the river) and swinging moorings in Christchurch - about a 3-4 year waiting list. Apply to the local council, or maybe they refer you to the Rivers people. Can't remember. You'll have sold the boat and/or forgotten all about it by the time they ring to ask if you're still interested.

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[Wiggo]

Council used to allow self-laid, as well, in the main harbour. In the old days, you just dumped an old car engine off the back of the boat with a big lump of chain, but now even if they let you, it's got to be properly done and can be expensive. There are some private river berths in Christchurch as well - try Rossiters or Elkins

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[oldgit]

My boat has a choice of 3 moorings.The first is self laid trot and costs 120 pa,the second is also self laid trot and costs 60pa.the third is a berth in a small boatyard on a jetty which costs a little more than both the others together.

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