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Thought it would be obvious -it's not (to me at any rate )
Gael Force are emailing trem for info but in the meantime can anyone here explain.
It's a 6-way panel with illuminated switches, 3 contacts on each switch one of which is connected by what I take to be the -ve busbar, 2 on each fuse holder. 1 of which , again, connected by (+ve) bus.
As I wired it nothing lights up on the switches until you have something connected - and switched on - then the switch lights up but not the connected appliance.
Obviously I don't understand the thing so please spare me the smart..se comments. Help would be appreciated though.
 
I'm not familiar with that specific panel but usually you would have a wire from the +ve bus to one side of the fuse, then from the other side of the fuse to one side of the switch then from the other side of the switch to the load (appliance your powering). The -ve return would then come from the other side of the load back to the -ve bus bar and on to the -ve side of the battery. ie, +ve battery post > +ve bus > Fuse > Switch > Load >-ve bus > -ve Battery post. You would not normally have the switch wired to the -ve bus although the panel itself might be as an earth?
 
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cryan said:
I'm not familiar with that specific panel but usually you would have a wire from the +ve bus to one side of the fuse, then from the other side of the fuse to one side of the switch then from the other side of the switch to the load (appliance your powering). The -ve return would then come from the other side of the load back to the -ve bus bar and on to the -ve side of the battery. ie, +ve battery post > +ve bus > Fuse > Switch > Load >-ve bus > -ve Battery post. You would not normally have the switch wired to the -ve bus although the panel itself might be as an earth?
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They are illuminated switches so there will be a negative connection to each switch, surely ?

MikePalmer said:
Thought it would be obvious -it's not (to me at any rate )

Obviously I don't understand the thing so please spare me the smart..se comments. Help would be appreciated though.
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Connect the positive feed from the battery to the bus bar that is connected to all the fuses. The other side of the fuses are connected individually to the switches ?????? Yes ??

Make a negative connection from the battery to the other bus bar.


each switch has one free terminal ???? Yes ?? Connect your loads between these and the negative bus bar. ( Positive to the switch, negative to the negative busbar)


But how about a photo of the back of the panel that shows all the connections clearly. Can then confirm ( or amend) the above
 
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Thanks for the replies. Just back from trying Cryan's solution . That got the loads powered up allright, but wierd things happen to the illuminated switches - not sure I can describe the pattern except that the one you are expecting to see lit, isn't.
Will pop out again and try Vic's, then get that photo if it's still needed.
But please don't wait by your laptops - just get on with your Royal Baby Parties.
 
MikePalmer said:
Thanks for the replies. Just back from trying Cryan's solution . That got the loads powered up allright, but wierd things happen to the illuminated switches - not sure I can describe the pattern except that the one you are expecting to see lit, isn't.
Will pop out again and try Vic's, then get that photo if it's still needed.
But please don't wait by your laptops - just get on with your Royal Baby Parties.
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Cryan is aying the same as me basically but he has overlooked the switch illimination.

Funny things happening with the illumination very possibly due to bad connections on the negative
 
Actually, hang on a minute Vic. Your layout is the same as Cryan's isn't it?
Did you catch the reference to the 3 terminals on each switch one of which (on each)is soldered to a bar ?

I'll go take the photo.
 
Admittedly I did forget about the illumination. If the illumination is for seeing the switch in the dark it probably takes a feed from the incoming wire and will either return via a neutral wire or through the metal of the panel via a ground wire. If it's to indicate that the load has power to it, the feed will likely come from the switched side.- I think? A photo would help though.
 
MikePalmer said:
Actually, hang on a minute Vic. Your layout is the same as Cryan's isn't it?
Did you catch the reference to the 3 terminals on each switch one of which (on each)is soldered to a bar ?

I'll go take the photo.
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Is the bar marked? If all switches are wired to the same bar that is likely a return for the illuminations as you don't want your loads common or your supply after the fuses.
 
I will produce a photo , but meantime -
If you picture from l to R
terminals 1,2 and 3 are on the switch. Number 1 is connected through all 6 by the soldered-on bar.
4 and 5 are on the fuse holder. 4 has a short black lead already fitted which would reach 3 or 2
The 5's are soldered to a busbar with a male auto-type connector on one end (the other bar doesn't)
Approximately above the columns of 1's and 2's - a large negative sign.
Above 4 and 5, a big Positive.
Nothing above 3.
And if it helps - If you connect 1 to battery neg, 2 is neg whether switch is on or not. 3 is neg when switch is on.
Now I've had enough of it for tonight.
Thanks for your help.
 
MikePalmer said:
I will produce a photo , but meantime -
If you picture from l to R
terminals 1,2 and 3 are on the switch. Number 1 is connected through all 6 by the soldered-on bar.
4 and 5 are on the fuse holder. 4 has a short black lead already fitted which would reach 3 or 2
The 5's are soldered to a busbar with a male auto-type connector on one end (the other bar doesn't)
Approximately above the columns of 1's and 2's - a large negative sign.
Above 4 and 5, a big Positive.
Nothing above 3.
And if it helps - If you connect 1 to battery neg, 2 is neg whether switch is on or not. 3 is neg when switch is on.
Now I've had enough of it for tonight.
Thanks for your help.
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The bar connected to all the 5s is the positive connection

The bar connected to all the 1 s is the common negative

2 appears to be negative because the illumination bulbs in each switch are fitted between 1 and 2

Connect 4 to 3 and the load positive to 2

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