Trader 545 Emsworth

[tome]

To the crew of the Trader which slowed to let us tack in front of him yesterday afternoon, many thanks!!

Appreciating that he would lose steerage in a narrow channel if I enforced my right of way I'd let go my sheets to pass behind him. I was out of the channel at the time and thought it was perfectly reasonable for him to stand on under the circumstances. He was having none of it and stopped his boat to let us pass ahead.

Cheers from a raggie (yes, I did wave but then we always do in Emsworth)!

 

[burgundyben]

Were gonna have a big thread about this again...

I always wave, and try to be as courteous as I can, esp as I sail an X boat and dinghy in Hamble too sometimes.

But, yesterday, there were a load of sea scouts tacking all over the place and one got right in my way with boats everywhere and I had to give it some throttle and go in from and I think we was scared, but I had no steerage and its was all lgetting messy, so here it is, public apology to the sea scouts. SORRY.

Howzat for raggie/stinky public relations.

SSHG - Soltron Self Help Group. Member number 1.

 

[markc]

Re: Were gonna have a big thread about this again...

yes, I also had problems near Calshot Split with loads of raggies. Slowed down but things started getting hairy - also 'cause no steerage - I also had to give it a handful to escape! Don't thing I swamped anyone, sorry if I did!

M

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[Guest]

Re: Trader / Tome

Phil & I were delivering a Trader 44 recently and as we passed through the tiny entrance and headed to port,
we stopped to give way to a sailing boat coming out from Traders yard. Can't see the problem with
so called lack of steerage cos you just use both your engines either stop the boat and/or to maintain the boat
in one position, or move it in slow stages until the possible conflict is passed.

"The Med is calling me"

 

[miket]

Re: Trader / Tome

I agree.

What loss of steerage? Inboard. outboard or outdrive, steer it on the engines.

 

[markc]

Re: Trader / Tome

disagree - fine if you are trying to negotiate a single obstacle, but if you are in a heayish swell (caused by other motorboats wash, fast ferries) and you have 6 or seven raggies within spitting distance (who a) - can't see where they are going too well and b) - can turn in front of you on a sixpence), you do loose all sensible steerage if you are not on the plane. If you are happy to try and steer with engines in that situation then you're just asking for a nasty accident.....I promise you!!!

IMHO
M

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[Guest]

Re: Trader / Tome

You can see by the original thread that he was in a narrow channel at Emsworth as indeed was I when
making my point. In these circumstances "planing speeds" do not enter the equation due to channel speed
limits. At such slow speeds one can turn a twin screw boat in its own length, and/or hold position using
the engines.

"The Med is calling me"

 

[hlb]

Re: Trader / Tome

Na rubbish, but in that situation you have to take control, forget manners. I had a similar thing happened whilst visiting the Solent in Cows Week. Sudenly surounded by about 50 of those big yachts with telegraph poles stuck out the front, aiming sraight at me from both directions and about ten abreast for and aft. Must admit, at one point I just stopped the boat and waited for the crunches. Only for a second though. Then just weaved through them, at times with one engine in full reverse and the other full ahead. Telegraph pole missing the davits by inches whilst another one was five feet off the bow. Not much scares me on a boat and I'm not in for stopping other folks fun. But that lot are just plain dangerous and should be sent off to mid atlantic if thats how they play. Not in the busiest chanel in the country.

No one can force me to come here-----------
----- I'm a Volunteer!!!

Haydn

 

[markc]

Re: Trader / Tome

Fair cop guv

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[iangrant]

Re: Trader / Tome

The trader fleet in and out of Emsworth are very considerate - I'm ashamed to say that a "fellow" yottie" (well motor sailor) ran down a wind surfer - he never even noticed - and to see this very wet guy stomping up the jetty - I nearly fell off laughing.- the old yottie didn't know he hit the board until the wetty fella pointed out the scratch up the bow where he was mown down!