philip_stevens
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Does anyone know if there is such a thing as UK 5A round pin plugs that have an integral fuse?
Totally NB. UK 5A round pin plugs
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vande9389
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My Hillyard has a couple. I think the plugs used to be common enough in houses in the 60s but were phased out. Any of the electricians amongst formumites may be able to give more details. I don't think you can get them anymore - at least I have not seen them.
pvb
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If you mean 3-pin...
If you mean 3-pin, I think the answer's yes - MK still produce them. If you mean 2-pin, I've never seen one fused.
If you mean 3-pin, I think the answer's yes - MK still produce them. If you mean 2-pin, I've never seen one fused.
mikefleetwood
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Re: If you mean 3-pin...
Are you sure?
I was pretty sure the old round-pin plugs were all un-fused. Wiring at that time relied on fused spurs for protection.
Are you sure?
I was pretty sure the old round-pin plugs were all un-fused. Wiring at that time relied on fused spurs for protection.
davidpbo
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It wouldn't be something aimed at the caravan market would it?
To the best of my knowlege (not very great as ring mains were coming in when I started showing an interest in electrickery) the 5 and 15 amp system was a spur system which each cable run to socket(s) being fused back at the fuse board individually I think, so no need for fuses in plugs.
To the best of my knowlege (not very great as ring mains were coming in when I started showing an interest in electrickery) the 5 and 15 amp system was a spur system which each cable run to socket(s) being fused back at the fuse board individually I think, so no need for fuses in plugs.
nedmin
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never seen a 5amp 3pin fused plug in 50yrs of electrical work. there used to be 2 types of plug, 5amp for table lamps etc. and 15amp for power.These were superceded by the 13amp fuseable about 40/50 yrs. ago, hell is it that long ago! even the 15amp wasnt fuseable. but relied on the fuse box. I have seen the odd 5amp unfusable in the odd electrical shop, probably old stock.
VicS
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never seen a 5amp 3pin fused plug in 50yrs of electrical work
[/ QUOTE ] I can assure you they did exist, Made by Mk as previously mentioned. My Father used them extesively in his house, which had never been upgraded to a 13 amp ring main system. until he moved here with us in 1980 I may even have the odd one or two but I think I dumped them all a few years ago. Sorry Philip.
never seen a 5amp 3pin fused plug in 50yrs of electrical work
[/ QUOTE ] I can assure you they did exist, Made by Mk as previously mentioned. My Father used them extesively in his house, which had never been upgraded to a 13 amp ring main system. until he moved here with us in 1980 I may even have the odd one or two but I think I dumped them all a few years ago. Sorry Philip.
VicS
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Philip,
I've had a quick scout around and I have found 6 of them (4 white and 2 brown) also 2 unfused ones, 7 sockets (1 flush the remainder surface mounting) and a 3way adapter but that is a bit dangerous as it reverses the polarity on one of the outlets!
There may be more . He may have used them on his model railway and I have not delved into the darkest, cowebbed, mouse infested corners of the garage.
I also found two 15amp unfused plugs and a flush mounting socket . There must be another 15a socket, possibly a trailing one on a short extension lead, as one of the plugs is still on Dad's welder which I do still use from time to time.
If you actually want any of this stuff you had better PM me.
I've had a quick scout around and I have found 6 of them (4 white and 2 brown) also 2 unfused ones, 7 sockets (1 flush the remainder surface mounting) and a 3way adapter but that is a bit dangerous as it reverses the polarity on one of the outlets!
There may be more . He may have used them on his model railway and I have not delved into the darkest, cowebbed, mouse infested corners of the garage.
I also found two 15amp unfused plugs and a flush mounting socket . There must be another 15a socket, possibly a trailing one on a short extension lead, as one of the plugs is still on Dad's welder which I do still use from time to time.
If you actually want any of this stuff you had better PM me.
nedmin
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Vic S no need to be sorry, thats the thing about the Forum we learn something new every day.altho. I cannot remember seeing any.
pvb
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steverow
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These are still used in the Theatre and entertainment industry for stage lighting applications, along with their 15A counterparts, although they are due`to be phased out over the coming few years..as soon as they have finished arguing about what should replace them.
Try a theatre supplier such as stage point or stage electrics.
Steve
Try a theatre supplier such as stage point or stage electrics.
Steve
DinghyMan
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City Electrical Factors def do the unfused, under a quid plus VAT, may do fused as well.
davidpbo
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These are still used in the Theatre and entertainment industry for stage lighting applications,
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not the fused variety though as theatre ligting is usually individual circuits fused individually at the dimmers or easly accessible point.
I did not know a 5 amp fused plug existed until today. You live and learn.
David
These are still used in the Theatre and entertainment industry for stage lighting applications,
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not the fused variety though as theatre ligting is usually individual circuits fused individually at the dimmers or easly accessible point.
I did not know a 5 amp fused plug existed until today. You live and learn.
David
philip_stevens
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Thank-you gentlemen.
I now know where I can get them. I googled and didn't find anything.
I do have an account with City Electrical, and they didn't come up with anything. Perhaps because they don't carry MK.
I had an idea that they existed, but couldn't find any online.
Many thanks to all.
BTW, I intend to use 2amp plugs and sockets (on 12v) on the boat to supply the (dare I say it) TV and Freeview receiver. I don't like the cigarette lighter plugs and sockets. I know there are different 12v plugs and sockets in caravan shops, but I prefer the 2amp units.
Anyone got a view - one way or the other - on using the 2amp in preference to the caravan flat pin 12v plugs and sockets??
I now know where I can get them. I googled and didn't find anything.
I do have an account with City Electrical, and they didn't come up with anything. Perhaps because they don't carry MK.
I had an idea that they existed, but couldn't find any online.
Many thanks to all.
BTW, I intend to use 2amp plugs and sockets (on 12v) on the boat to supply the (dare I say it) TV and Freeview receiver. I don't like the cigarette lighter plugs and sockets. I know there are different 12v plugs and sockets in caravan shops, but I prefer the 2amp units.
Anyone got a view - one way or the other - on using the 2amp in preference to the caravan flat pin 12v plugs and sockets??
landyhubbard
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Arn't these fused 5 amp plugs usually used for 5 amp "table lamp" circuits in domestic installations?- we have them at home.
philip_stevens
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That's what the installation was for - but with four from one dimmer switch. The only problem was that my branch of CEF didn't know about them.
I think I can get some MK ones now. Phone call to CEF on Monday.
I think I can get some MK ones now. Phone call to CEF on Monday.
cliffordpope
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Re: Yes, MK make them...
I collect old round pin plugs and sockets, and have a cottage entirely wired with them. Every combintion you can think of has existed at some time, and some of them were pretty weird.
15 A 3 pin, 10 A 3 pin, tiny 2 A and 5A 3 pin, 2 and 5 A 2 pin, and large 10 A 2 pin. Possibly these were for DC supplies, because it will fit the socket either way round.There were also regional variations with the pin spacing different. There were plugs with adjustable pins to fit different spacing of holes, combination adaptors with shared and duplicated holes. The list is endless.
A friend recently came back from a trip to Malaysia and brought me some new 15 A round pin sockets - they have a dual system there, a mixture of our flat pin 13A and also our old round pin. Hotels for example are quite randomly one or the other or a mixture. A plug collector's paradise!
The pride of my collection is a large wooden 3 pin plug, with larger than normal pins and wider spacings. I have no idea what it fitted, or where.
I collect old round pin plugs and sockets, and have a cottage entirely wired with them. Every combintion you can think of has existed at some time, and some of them were pretty weird.
15 A 3 pin, 10 A 3 pin, tiny 2 A and 5A 3 pin, 2 and 5 A 2 pin, and large 10 A 2 pin. Possibly these were for DC supplies, because it will fit the socket either way round.There were also regional variations with the pin spacing different. There were plugs with adjustable pins to fit different spacing of holes, combination adaptors with shared and duplicated holes. The list is endless.
A friend recently came back from a trip to Malaysia and brought me some new 15 A round pin sockets - they have a dual system there, a mixture of our flat pin 13A and also our old round pin. Hotels for example are quite randomly one or the other or a mixture. A plug collector's paradise!
The pride of my collection is a large wooden 3 pin plug, with larger than normal pins and wider spacings. I have no idea what it fitted, or where.
snowleopard
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I've been thinking of using 3-pin 2A plugs for 12v on the boat as the other types of plug seem very unreliable. I have some screw-in ones for lighting in the cockpit but I always have to jiggle them around to make contact. I have a 12v vacuum cleaner that draws 8A and it has melted the insulation on a cig lighter socket.
If you need a supplier, try www.tlc-direct.co.uk
If you need a supplier, try www.tlc-direct.co.uk