Greenheart
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I just had toast. Maybe it's a Swallows & Amazons memory, but I reckon I'll want toast more than anything, on the boat. Do those gas-stove toast-makers really work?
Toast: is it possible without a grill?
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Spyro
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Slice of bread on a dry frying pan works ok.
Kelpie
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No. I ended up just using a dry frying pan on a low heat. Takes flippin ages.
New boat has a grill and I'm amazed by how much use it gets. Last dinner I had onboard had dauphinoise tatties, heated through in the double skillet and then crisped up under the grill. Mmmm....
New boat has a grill and I'm amazed by how much use it gets. Last dinner I had onboard had dauphinoise tatties, heated through in the double skillet and then crisped up under the grill. Mmmm....
PhillM
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Yes, I have an origio meths stove. I tried the one in your picture and it didn't work. Cheaper and better is this:
http://www.simplyhike.co.uk/product...AUEAuuinmK16FL6AzNcv2D6_Q2T4ulY7iABoCbF7w_wcB
I have one like it and make 4 to 6 slices in 10 minuites.
http://www.simplyhike.co.uk/product...AUEAuuinmK16FL6AzNcv2D6_Q2T4ulY7iABoCbF7w_wcB
I have one like it and make 4 to 6 slices in 10 minuites.
dylanwinter
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prv
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Blowtorch? 
Pete
Pete
Kelpie
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Blowtorch?
Pete
Yes, this works, but you have to be careful.
(former paraffin stove user... always had my blowtorch ready...)
pmagowan
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We use a grill but i have very good results on my Aga just on the hotplate. Not sure how well an Aga would fit on your oat though but you might be able to improvise something
Greenheart
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I wonder what it is about a grill flame, which can't be replicated by a stove flame?
planteater
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The dry frying pan and the camping toaster don't really cut it in my experience. Definitely worth taking a cheapo 240V toaster for those times on shore power.
prv
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I think what's needed isn't flame as such, but radiant heat. When making toast in front of an open fire (we used to do this on winter evenings as kids) you don't stick it right in the flames, you hold it in front. Similarly, gas grills don't direct flames at the food, they play the flames over a metal mesh which heats up and projects heat downwards.
Pete
Dockhead
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Electric toaster and inverter? They only use like 800w. Within the capabilities of the most modest cruisers' electrical systems, I think.
prv
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AngusMcDoon
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The racks that hold 3 or 4 slices don't seem to work. The single ones that have a metal mesh work brilliantly well. I toast my muffins or crumpets every day with one. They work for bread as well. I shall take a picture at brekkers tomorrow and post it if I remember. It is not worth taking a mains powered toaster, shore power or not, not at all.
dylanwinter
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Greenheart
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Presumably a thick frying pan over a flame, eventually receives, accumulates and transfers to the bread a great deal of heat - like the element of an electric grill, red with heat?
So the key (if cooking is limited to a gas flame) is to concentrate the heat in some sort of element, without transferring it too directly (as a flame does) onto whatever is cooking?
Isn't it likely that some kind of very thin metal could be the answer - by quickly accumulating all the flame's great heat, without needing lots of gas to reach toasting temperature?
So the key (if cooking is limited to a gas flame) is to concentrate the heat in some sort of element, without transferring it too directly (as a flame does) onto whatever is cooking?
Isn't it likely that some kind of very thin metal could be the answer - by quickly accumulating all the flame's great heat, without needing lots of gas to reach toasting temperature?
prv
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Yes, and you have just described a gas grill (at least the type used on boat and camping cookers, I've never had a domestic one). They use a metal mesh to get to red heat (ie, emitting IR radiation which is what is needed) in a few seconds.
Pete
NickRobinson
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+1
Strathglass
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I just had toast. Maybe it's a Swallows & Amazons memory, but I reckon I'll want toast more than anything, on the boat. Do those gas-stove toast-makers really work?
Yes we have one and have used it for the last five seasons. Although it is possible to fit four slices my wife just puts two slices on at a time so that she can see what's going on. It is most important that there is not a frying pan in use on the next burner at the same time as the combination of the two soon try to turn the toast into a mini bonfire. We have now bought a replacement one to keep handy but the original one still solders on. We use it on a gas two burner & oven cooker.
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Greenheart
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I hope not, for your health's sake!
I'll look into that single-slice version, mentioned earlier. I like toast very much, but I'd rather have one decent slice at a time, rather than try and fail to make four at once.
