To the boat owners who live in Wales or marina staff in Wales, I need your opinions!

Tranona said:
I can only assume that you have not read and attempted to complete the questionaire.

It assumes that this is all a "done deal" and we are being asked to comment on how reasonable it all is. I doubt anybody could give reasoned answers to the loaded questions that are posed about things that are unknown or do not even exist yet.

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What is so depressing is the lack of intellectual rigour. This would simply not meet the level descriptors for an undergraduate project, never mind a Masters level piece of work. Equally depressing is the thought that such poor quality work might just get through into "official" policy!
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Also there seems no consideration of the current drive to make antifoul LESS toxic. Our fast ships have a slippery antifoul which makes it difficult for beasties to attach however the anti foul we use has become less and less effective.

The questionnaire talking about this talks about cleaning berths for arriving vessels! No mention of holding areas or retaining debris?

Yes the students need to be better informed about the operation of boats and marinas to bring our a better designed questionnaire.
 
Bilgediver said:
Also there seems no consideration of the current drive to make antifoul LESS toxic. Our fast ships have a slippery antifoul which makes it difficult for beasties to attach however the anti foul we use has become less and less effective.

The questionnaire talking about this talks about cleaning berths for arriving vessels! No mention of holding areas or retaining debris?

Yes the students need to be better informed about the operation of boats and marinas to bring our a better designed questionnaire.
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See my comments on a similar thread on PBO. First there needs to be a "problem" to investigate!
 
TwoHooter said:
Are dragons an invasive non-native species?

(sorry, couldn't resist it)
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Silly boy, they have been native to Wales since before Merlin & Arthur Pendragon's day - y Draig Goch is on their flag to this day. Non-native indeed, shame on you!

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Davegriff said:
News to me! Pray tell me where I, as a local, I can get a discounted berth in Milford Haven - or did you just make that one up?
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Common up here in Gwynedd, assumed it was a National rather than local practice. Local Ratepayers get something like a 40% discount in Conway (Council run harbour) & there is a similar arrangement in Caernarfon, despite it being a private dock & quay. I believe Rhyl is the same. Never checked at Holyhead. I don't think it is true in Port Dinorwig tho (another private dock).
 
Tranona said:
Perhaps you can share with us the evidence that invasive species are a problem in the UK coastal waters 9such as the welsh coast) and that they is spread by leisure boats.

It is not helpful to take examples from other parts of the world and the examples you give for the UK have not been introduced by leisure boats. The movements of leisure boats in both coastal waters and in and out of our coastal waters is tiny compared with the movements of commercial shipping (which is indeed the source of some invasive species).

It is lazy science bordering on scare mongering to suggest that "we are all guilty" and should expect some restrictions or controls in the future without clear provable evidence as justification.

As you may have seen in the recent debates on MCZs there is a lot of similar bad science going on, usually coming from environmental pressure groups seeking to restrict our activities. Fortunately in recent times government has started to be more sceptical of some of the unsupported claims when framing laws and regulations, so those promoting such restrictions will need to be very sure of their grounds, otherwise they are likely to find strong opposition.
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The problem is that in Wales we have a built in Labour Gov! They love to micro manage! The AMs are thick, imho! The saying here is they could put a donkey up with a Labour rosette on and it would win, they did and it did!
Being a bit more serious, the micro manageing dies cause probs, the officials like to gold plate legislation and if we are not careful we will get serious cinstraints put on us.
A certain Dr has just published a paper on lobsters around Lundy. The starry eyed ones put a no take zone there because they could, it would save the world, yaddy yaddy, but no outcomes!
However what the paper says is that the lobster population exploded around Lundy, they fight when in close proximity, they scar the shells, disease spreads and by the way they are also getting infected with gill parasites! So by doing no take they have caused problems for lobsters! Ho hum, thank you Welsh Government!
And saw a report today, save the planet types have been buying shellfish, including Canadian ones and "saving" them by dumping them in the sea here! The same Dr has been in Canada where they have a different disease, she has been doing research on the possibility of disease spreading here to our fisheries. Well, dumping Canadian shellfish in our waters aint going to help is it!
And this is what we are dealing with when we get the Welsh Gov involved in research!
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Searush said:
Common up here in Gwynedd, assumed it was a National rather than local practice. Local Ratepayers get something like a 40% discount in Conway (Council run harbour) & there is a similar arrangement in Caernarfon, despite it being a private dock & quay. I believe Rhyl is the same. Never checked at Holyhead. I don't think it is true in Port Dinorwig tho (another private dock).
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Private sector dont discriminate!
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Mathilde said:
Hi all,

I am a Research Assistant at Bangor University working on a new project in collaboration with Natural Resources Wales on methods used to limit the spread of marine non-native species (biosecurity). The aim of this research is to get a better understanding of the attitudes and opinions of boat owners and marina staff to non-native species and methods to prevent their spread. We need your views to create an appropriate marine biosecurity plan for Wales. Overall, we aim for an appropriate biosecurity plan with the least constraints possible while protecting the environment. Your answers will help towards advising Welsh Government on developing an actual marine biosecurity plan. In order to assess it, I am conducting a survey across Wales using on-line questionnaires. It would be great if you could help and fill in the questionnaire. The questionnaire will take approximately 30 minutes. And if you share your opinions you get a chance to win £50 in Amazon vouchers in our prize draw.

Here is the link for the English version: http://marinebiosecuritywales.limequery.com/index.php/836847/lang-en

And Welsh version: http://marinebiosecuritywales.limequery.com/index.php/836847/lang-cy

Thank you very much in advance for helping me out with this; your opinions are highly valued!

Mathilde.
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They have already done this work in Holyhead, why are you doing it again?
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