The MCA is planning on scaling back the number of marine offices.

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The shipping unions are against this and perhaps so should the be UK yachtsmen.

http://www.ybw.com/news-from-yachti...tion-to-mca-plans-to-axe-marine-offices-18482

They hope so to save $400k a year.

To put this into perspective that is 11% of the cost of a Shannon lifeboat with its launching carriage. Perhaps the RNLI could be prevailed upon to use a minute portion of its £700m reserves to contribute to keeping these offices open? After all that would represent less than one half of one % of their annual income.
 
Struggling to work out from the linked article what they actually do, but a look on the gov.uk website describes them as "Marine and Fishing Survey Offices". Doesn't sound to me much like the life saving services the RNLI provides, so no. The RNLI shouldn't even consider it.
 
Sybarite said:
To put this into perspective that is 11% of the cost of a Shannon lifeboat with its launching carriage. Perhaps the RNLI could be prevailed upon to use a minute portion of its £700m reserves to contribute to keeping these offices open? After all that would represent less than one half of one % of their annual income.
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Oh dear, the second attemt to start what has become a dreary annual ritual
 
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Looks like more efficiency savings by the government, although I am not sure they would be keen to save US dollars.
 
Sybarite said:
The shipping unions are against this and perhaps so should the be UK yachtsmen.

http://www.ybw.com/news-from-yachti...tion-to-mca-plans-to-axe-marine-offices-18482

They hope so to save $400k a year.

To put this into perspective that is 11% of the cost of a Shannon lifeboat with its launching carriage. Perhaps the RNLI could be prevailed upon to use a minute portion of its £700m reserves to contribute to keeping these offices open? After all that would represent less than one half of one % of their annual income.
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They provide nothing for yachtsmen. You are confusing with the coastguard, which has already been through this exercise. Of course the union will object as there are likely to be redundancies under the proposal. However the reduction in fixed offices (not functioning practitioners such as surveyors) is a common theme. In this case the consequence of changes in the pattern of usage and the use of modern communications technology.

Nothing to do with the RNLI either so you can save your efforts to stir things up for another time. Can't see what it has to do with the cost of Shannon lifeboats either
 
Sybarite said:
The shipping unions are against this and perhaps so should the be UK yachtsmen.

http://www.ybw.com/news-from-yachti...tion-to-mca-plans-to-axe-marine-offices-18482

They hope so to save $400k a year.

To put this into perspective that is 11% of the cost of a Shannon lifeboat with its launching carriage. Perhaps the RNLI could be prevailed upon to use a minute portion of its £700m reserves to contribute to keeping these offices open? After all that would represent less than one half of one % of their annual income.
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Some marine offices are closing. No loss of personnel, or surveyors, and mobile working has been coming in for some while. It is no longer necessary for a surveyor who has inspected a vessel in, say, Brixham, to have to drive back to Plymouth to fill the records in.

The MOs are totally unconnected with the Coastguard side of the MCA.

I thought as an accountant you'd be happy the MCA are saving building and facilities costs from now redundant locations?

Routine tasks like booking your survey and updating details are (about time) moving online, so a better service for the end user and the money is staying in the maritime safety side of the agency.

Pathetic attempt to have one of your dreary ill-informed digs at the RNLI though.
 
chanelyacht said:
Pathetic attempt to have one of your dreary ill-informed digs at the RNLI though.
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You may not like the fact that I criticize the extravagance of the RNLI. However it certainly is not ill-informed. I doubt that anybody on here has examined the accounts as closely as I have and the figures I use on the other hand are always drawn from either the RNLI or SNSM annual accounts or their respective web-sites.

Do I have to remind you of the duff information you, as a self-proclaimed expert, have given?
 
Sybarite said:
You may not like the fact that I criticize the extravagance of the RNLI. However it certainly is not ill-informed. I doubt that anybody on here has examined the accounts as closely as I have and the figures I use on the other hand are always drawn from either the RNLI or SNSM annual accounts or their respective web-sites.
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Ahh, so your post was all about the RNLI after all -- never have seen that one coming! Heroically pathetic, if faintly amusing :D
 
Colvic Watson said:
I'm sure it's more frequent than that. He had a point that I have a bit of sympathy with but it got lost a long, long time ago.
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The only point seems to be that the French run their maritime rescue services in a different way from the UK - but then so do the US, Italy, Greece, or wherever you are.

For some reason he cannot cope with differences.
 
chanelyacht said:
They do, as they manage coding for charter vessels.

I love the fact the union is opposing online booking and digital certification, do they think it's still 1953?
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Yes, I forgot that, but it is only a small part of the work, mostly sub contracted and doubt charter operators will see any difference.
 
dom said:
Ahh, so your post was all about the RNLI after all -- never have seen that one coming! Heroically pathetic, if faintly amusing :D
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As this is an open forum, you have every right to criticize me (but I would prefer that you criticize the points that I make) as I have to criticize an extravagant organization like the RNLI. On the other hand in the last round of discussions you criticized me for certain points which I did not agree with and asked several times for you to justify your points. You couldn't and didn't, nor did you apologise.

So, forgive me if I believe that you are not worth wasting time on..
 
Sybarite said:
As this is an open forum, you have every right to criticize me (but I would prefer that you criticize the points that I make)
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That's the problem for the casual bystander (as I try to be in your threads). You've made your point so repetitiously that that's all people notice anymore. You've buried your POV yourself; you've made it more about you than the point you're making by endlessly repeating it.
 
chanelyacht said:
They do, as they manage coding for charter vessels.

I love the fact the union is opposing online booking and digital certification, do they think it's still 1953?
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No I don't suppose they think that. I should imagine they are trying to save someone's job, mortgage etc
 
bitbaltic said:
That's the problem for the casual bystander (as I try to be in your threads). You've made your point so repetitiously that that's all people notice anymore. You've buried your POV yourself; you've made it more about you than the point you're making by endlessly repeating it.
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The situation is evolving each year. For example when I first started talking about the exaggerated (IMO) cost of the Shannon about 4 years ago the price was £1.5m and the launching trolley was £800k. Now the respective prices are £2.1m and £1.5m. There must be gallopping inflation in the UK....

Funny nobody seems concerned.
 
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